Talk:Alyssa Carson

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Speedy keep, 3 August 2020, see discussion.
keep, 27 June 2020, see discussion.
delete, July 10, 2018, see discussion.

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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because the reason for the deletion no longer applies (the article was formerly deleted because Carson had not done anything yet) hence the nomination for speedy deletion under WP:G4 does not hold. Evidence:

the article now reflects Carson's entrepreneurial endeavours, book, and motivational speaking
the current article easily meets GNG
article has added several sources that didn't exist at the time of the previous AFD discussion which shows sustained media coverage for over 2 years

Samsmachado (talk) 16:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

(For re-nomination for speedy deletion due to WP:G11.) This page is not unambiguously promotional because it does not list any achievements of Carson's that are unsourced, it does not advertise for any product/service, and it has no external links except for the official website in the infobox (so cannot be external link spamming). Per WP:WEIGHT, "If a viewpoint is in the majority, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts". Everything is cited. The sources back up all claims made in the article.
Also, the article was not intended to be promotional. I have no connection to Carson and merely made the article because I had seen a plethora of articles about her (ie. more than enough to meet WP:GNG). To the best of my human ability, the article is written with NPOV.
Furthermore, even if the article was written in a promotional tone, the arguments I have just made show that the article is not so overly promotional that it could not be fixed. And according to WP:G11, "If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text written from a neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion." Samsmachado (talk) 18:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly think the entire product promotion section should be removed. I question its value. ^Alex J _Fox^(Talk)_(Contribs) 10:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

author?

I'm not sure "author" is an appropriate title, especially in the lead sentence. This book was self-published. The also article still reads like a resume, with a very promotional tone.

--MadeYourReadThis (talk) 13:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I trimmed that. However I removed the Peacock tag, as I can't see much of any "language that does not impart real information". Please point a few examples if you don't mind. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 13:43, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

--Any issue with removing the Awards section? None of these appear notable.--MadeYourReadThis (talk) 21:46, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Awards needn't be individually notable to be mentioned in a biography. As long as they're verifiable, they should remain. pburka (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]