Talk:Waldorf School

While criticism of Waldorf education is of course sometimes legitimate, consider suspect any organizations associated with the critic Dan Dugan, who is perhaps the chief organizer against Waldorf Schools. See"Audio McCarthyism" a six-page article from "Stereophile" magazine, which presents Dugan as a user of McCarthyite deception and smear tactics.

Talk about smear tactics! The Stereophile article has nothing to do with Waldorf education--it's a hysterical reaction to my busting of consumer fraud in the "high end" hi-fi business. The above paragraph is by Sune Nordwall, himself hysterical about anybody having the gall to criticize his cult's school. -Dan Dugan

The personalities of Dan Dugan and Sune Nordwall are not relevant to maintaining the article on Waldorf Schools. This is pure ad-hominem argument. Note that a warning that a person or organization is presenting false or misleading information about the subject may be appropriate, if accompanied by specific evidence of same, which could then be discussed. In the absence of that I intend to edit this irrelevant discussion out after allowing time for objection. (This comment and others in bold are by Abd.)

Links: Waldorf Critics and Waldorf Survivors offer very personal views of individual schools by individuals who have been overly challenged by some aspect of Waldorf Education. No two Waldorf schools are identical in nature and the experiences of individuals vary.

The individuals running these sites have very subjective and negative views on waldorf education.

The sure do, I'm one of them. What's interesting is the problems that crop up at Waldorf schools all over the world. These indicate systemic problems. -Dan Dugan

The last two paragraphs add nothing to the discussion. the first one simply repeats what was in the paragraph before, only with more highly charged language, and the second, while a little more relevant, still lacks specifics, and could be said about nearly any social movement.

Parents considering Waldorf for their children are encouraged to meet the individual teachers at the prospective Waldorf/Steiner school they would attend.

This should practically go without saying, and should apply to any form of education. It seems innocuous enough, however.

See also:

www.waldorfworld.net/waldorflist (posted by 68.42.193.141)

So, are you saying that Waldorf advocacy sites are not very subjective? I think that people contemplating sending their kids to a Waldorf school should consider arguments from both sides. Rosemary Amey 05:21, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

A better article will make this easier, though it is a little bit of black-and-white thinking to imagine that the issue of Waldorf education has only two sides! Let's work on the article to give it a true NPOV.

Copyright. Is that information copyrighted? Perl 13:59, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Good question. Such a lengthy quote seems out of place in an encyclopedia article. Rosemary Amey 05:21, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

The pro-Waldorf quotes, aside from possible copyright issues, do seem out-of-place in an encyclopedia article. Perhaps a reference to Waldorf testimonials would be in order, rather than actually quoting them.