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| − | Looks like Wikipedia needs to take a dive. I plan to spread this content around the web in hopes that someone will DDOS your site. This is just rude. Hope that I never find your HQ. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2605:6000:D505:B700:2450:A7D3:EF54:951C|2605:6000:D505:B700:2450:A7D3:EF54:951C]] ([[User talk:2605:6000:D505:B700:2450:A7D3:EF54:951C|talk]]) 14:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Wikipedia articles are intended to summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about a subject. If you have material to add, it must [[WP:CITE|cite]] reliable sources or it will be removed. - [[User:SummerPhD|<span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span>]] ([[User talk:SummerPhD|talk]]) 22:58, 29 September 2013 (UTC) |
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The article is read as if it were from a news source. Both its natural meaning and use as a racist slogan should be made, not simply alluding to how its racist the entire time. This is not meant to be a debate article. Every point you make towards white pride being used just to mean white pride, you refute with a claim that it is inherently racist. |
The article is read as if it were from a news source. Both its natural meaning and use as a racist slogan should be made, not simply alluding to how its racist the entire time. This is not meant to be a debate article. Every point you make towards white pride being used just to mean white pride, you refute with a claim that it is inherently racist. |
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Whether or not you believe white pride is a racist slogan or not is irrelevant, both meanings of the phrase should be equally represented, as wikipedia is not a site for debate, it is a site used to gather factual information. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.45.134.140|66.45.134.140]] ([[User talk:66.45.134.140|talk]]) 07:00, 10 February 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Whether or not you believe white pride is a racist slogan or not is irrelevant, both meanings of the phrase should be equally represented, as wikipedia is not a site for debate, it is a site used to gather factual information. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.45.134.140|66.45.134.140]] ([[User talk:66.45.134.140|talk]]) 07:00, 10 February 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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| − | White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist viewpoints |
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| − | why does white pride directly relate to racism but black pride refers to a movement? Why must it be associated with racism? No wonder this Country is moving backwards. When people seek out information and all they see is hate. |
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| − | [[User:Brent6699|Brent6699]] ([[User talk:Brent6699|talk]]) 14:29, 10 February 2016 (UTC) |
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Wikipedia articles are intended to summarize what independent reliable sources say about a subject. If you have material to add, it must cite reliable sources or it will be removed. - SummerPhD (talk) 22:58, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
- The original text in the definition for white pride is completely inaccurate and biased. Although there is a facet to the term or slogan that is connected with hate speech and or white nationalist skin head gangs/organizations this aspect belongs in the controversy section.my only goal is to present a proper presentation which mirrors the definitions of black pride and Asian pride. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Commonsenceforanuncommonage (talk • contribs) 08:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- The fact is, "White Pride" is used primarily by a bunch of bigots as stated in the first sentence of the article. This is well established by many, many WP:RS. As a certifiable way-over-privileged "white guy", I wish to not be associated with this sh*t. The WP:WEIGHT is correct and the article should retain its criticism of "White Pride" Jim1138 (talk) 08:28, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Your opinions and Salon.com are not reliable sources. Have a look at the Black pride article and the vastly different tone there. It lists users of the phrase such as Black Panther Party without calling them racists (and they are). This is article is dripping with liberal, progressive, anti-white bias. Not even close to WP:NPOV Matty1487 (talk) 16:40, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2016
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I have a complain about the current status about the pride branches. Gay pride: stand against homofobia and being proud in being homosexual. Black pride: About pride in being black. Asian pride: about pride in being asian. And the last one White pride: used by racist and neo nazis used to show their racism seriously wiki? how can it be racist to be proud in being white but not in being black? i want to see a change in this or else i am willing to go far with this. 90.231.230.107 (talk) 20:04, 9 February 2016 (UTC) This is making it's rounds on social media, and though Social Media shouldn't be the authority on how wiki articles should be structured, I can certainly see the benefit in changing the wordings here, as previously stated, it is a heavily biased introduction. --152.228.136.72 (talk) 20:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2016
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I believe that this page should be unprotected. The reason's being is first and foremost is that White Pride is the exact same as Black Pride and Asian Pride. How is it that those races can be prideful in their race but White's can't? Secondly, I believe that it's semi-protected so that select individuals (non whites) can edit the page history as they see fit, to make sure that if a young White child came across this page, it would make them feel guilty of being White. It's a shame that White's get treated like this and we can't even take pride in our race without being called "racist". So, if you could come up with a valid excuse of why this page doesn't say something along the lines of "Taking a positive stance of being White" and the others do, I would love to hear it.
Sincerely Yours, A Proud White Man Ailment1 (talk) 06:13, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. clpo13(talk) 07:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Past edit requests.
I cant help but notice the plethora of complaints, and the ever so purposefully ignorant administrator who refuses to allow edits to be made to the obviously biased and heavily flawed article. All wikipedia articles should be made without adding your opinion or personal bias into the article in any way, which was obviously done here. "The slogan "White Pride, World Wide" appears in the logo of Stormfront, a website owned and operated by Don Black, who was formerly a Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.[14] The North Georgia White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan describe themselves as "a patriotic, White Christian revival movement dedicated to preserving the maintenance of White Pride and the rights of the White Race".[15] The slogan was chanted by neo-Nazis rallying in Manchester, United Kingdom,[16] and in an exposé from The Week, James Poulos warned that "Europe is on track to rediscover what looks to us like a highly unsettling form of white pride."[17]" The article is read as if it were from a news source. Both its natural meaning and use as a racist slogan should be made, not simply alluding to how its racist the entire time. This is not meant to be a debate article. Every point you make towards white pride being used just to mean white pride, you refute with a claim that it is inherently racist. Whether or not you believe white pride is a racist slogan or not is irrelevant, both meanings of the phrase should be equally represented, as wikipedia is not a site for debate, it is a site used to gather factual information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.45.134.140 (talk) 07:00, 10 February 2016 (UTC)