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:Heh, Congrats Jimmy ;). I remember when I uploaded the original from the Foundation website to commons, and it almost got deleted because we couldn't find evidence of you releasing it under cc-by-sa ;). Its still a great photo though and I'm glad to see it made FP :). [[User:Mifter|Mifter]] ([[User talk:Mifter|talk]]) 04:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
:Heh, Congrats Jimmy ;). I remember when I uploaded the original from the Foundation website to commons, and it almost got deleted because we couldn't find evidence of you releasing it under cc-by-sa ;). Its still a great photo though and I'm glad to see it made FP :). [[User:Mifter|Mifter]] ([[User talk:Mifter|talk]]) 04:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== Founder == |
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I know this is a tired issue. And I despise the fact that I have to preface my remarks to fend off talk page stalkers. But people, do not remove this if your name is not Jimbo Wales. You have no right to do so. For that matter, Jimbo please do not simply ignore me as you do to so many other people. My question is this: |
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Do you have any shred of evidence that backs up your claim to be the founder (vs co-founder) of wikipedia? So far, most of us have seen none.[[User:Drew R. Smith|<b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">''D''</b>]]rew [[User talk:Drew R. Smith|<b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">''S''</b>mith]] [[Special:Contributions/Drew R. Smith|<i style="font-size:smaller;color:#ccc">What I've done</i>]] 14:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:'Most have us have seen none'? I'm not sure that's correct - as far as I'm aware, there's only one person claiming to be a 'co-founder', and that person was *employed* by Jimbo. There's plenty of evidence that this was an employer/employee relationship, and that the employer had the idea of developing an encyclopaedia prior to hiring this person. It is therefore difficult to see how (except by his having briefly, generously, injudiciously, sharing the 'founder' tag around his employees) an employee can be rightly described as a founder. If Jimbo had had a partner, and they jointly started a company, and they simultaneously decided to create something then maybe they'd be 'co-founders'. But that's not the case here. |
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:But you're right about one thing. It's a tired issue. Let it go..... [[User:Little grape|Little grape]] ([[User talk:Little grape|talk]]) 15:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::Jimbo has a sock? Or maybe its just another talk page stalker talking for him... either way: |
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::It was Larry Sangers idea to create wikipedia; initially to funnel articles into nupedia. I don't know jimbo's exact words to sanger when sanger proposed this, but he basically said "hm? oh, yeah, whatever." |
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::Later, in press releases he called sanger the founder of wikipedia. Wikipedia grew, and he began calling sanger the co-founder. Almost as soon as sanger left the project, jimbo began saying he was the sole founder of wikipedia. |
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::Not to mention the fact that '''It wasn't Jimbos idea'''. So what if he *employed* Sanger. It was still Sangers idea. That makes Jimbo the funding for wikipedia, at best. |
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::Now to all you stalkers, please go away. I want to speak to Jimbo himself about this.[[User:Drew R. Smith|<b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">''D''</b>]]rew [[User talk:Drew R. Smith|<b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">''S''</b>mith]] [[Special:Contributions/Drew R. Smith|<i style="font-size:smaller;color:#ccc">What I've done</i>]] 15:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:::You can't have it both ways Drew - if you don't want other people to contribute then email the man, don't showboat on his page. Likewise, don't make claims such as "most of us have seen none" and then expect 'most of us' to allow you to speak in our name. |
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:::The idea for a free encyclopaedia seems to have predated Sanger's employment by some months. The [[Nupedia]] article states: 'In the autumn of 1999, Wales began thinking about an online encyclopedia built by volunteers and, in January 2000, hired Sanger to oversee its development'. That seems to me to be fairly conclusive - through cost problems and because of dismal productivity he later started casting around for a better html editor, changed the rules on contributors, and decided upon the wiki format. There was at that point only one decision-maker, and that would have been the man (the employer) paying the bills - *not* the employee! Sanger was the hired hand. A valued hired hand, but at the end of the day the buck stopped with one guy - Wales. If you disagree with that view then go argue it on [[Nupedia]], because otherwise it looks like you're trolling here for a reaction. Oh, wait..... Ok, I'm out..... [[User:Little grape|Little grape]] ([[User talk:Little grape|talk]]) 16:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Sole-foundership is a fringe view. Regardless, Drew, this is best emailed to Jimmy. Discussing it on the project serves no meaningful purpose ''on'' the project, as consensus has been established and there is consistency (in article space) project-wide. [[User talk:Jennavecia|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting Italic;color:deeppink">Lara</span>]] 19:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== New revenue stream? == |
== New revenue stream? == |
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Happy birthday

Some time in the next few days. I haven't forgotten about the "mystery". :P — $PЯINGεrαgђ 04:56 6 August, 2009 (UTC)
- I forgot the cake! :) ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Springeragh (talk • contribs)
- We haven't talked anytime but when i saw that today is your birthday, i just wanted to congratulate your new age =) I wish you would have a healthy, long life. The humanity needs you ;)--Onurkayabasi (talk) 02:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, happy birthday Jim! --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 02:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Happy birthday from me too, if it really is your birthday! I remember there was a mix up of dates some time before :) ≈ Chamal talk 02:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ha, what are the odds of me discovering you have a user page on your birthday? :P. Happy birthday! Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 03:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Happy birthday! I have got birthday today too, and I'm now 11. The administrators of Croatian Wikipedia are something tell you about me on octobar 2008. (as far I know)... I'm the youngest user on Croatian wikipedia. I think you're remember...
--Vatrena ptica (talk) 07:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC) - Happy Birthday one more time, i was planning on coming tomorrow, but since everyone is here already. Thanks a lot, Jimbo, Long live the king.Zidane tribal (talk) 16:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Happy birthday! I have got birthday today too, and I'm now 11. The administrators of Croatian Wikipedia are something tell you about me on octobar 2008. (as far I know)... I'm the youngest user on Croatian wikipedia. I think you're remember...
- Ha, what are the odds of me discovering you have a user page on your birthday? :P. Happy birthday! Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 03:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Happy birthday from me too, if it really is your birthday! I remember there was a mix up of dates some time before :) ≈ Chamal talk 02:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, happy birthday Jim! --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 02:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Happy birthday, and wishing you good health and good fortune. After all, we expect you to be editing Wikipedia when you're in your 80s. :) Otumba (talk) 00:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Griffinofwales (talk) has given you a WikiCake! WikiCakes promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cake, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Bon appetit!
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What's a birthday without cake? Griffinofwales (talk) 23:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
"They say it's your birthday...well it's my birthday too, yea!"...

--Buster7 (talk) 02:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, Jimmy! Hope it was a great one! Have some birthday cookies.... Ks0stm (T•C) 02:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
What he said. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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- Heh, Congrats Jimmy ;). I remember when I uploaded the original from the Foundation website to commons, and it almost got deleted because we couldn't find evidence of you releasing it under cc-by-sa ;). Its still a great photo though and I'm glad to see it made FP :). Mifter (talk) 04:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
New revenue stream?
It's a long-shot, but forewarned is forearmed. An idle thought crossed my mind that AIs being tested on Wikipedia could harm the project, so I proposed this policy Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Artificial Intelligence User Accounts. There is some uncertainty about the seriousness of the motivation, but looking at it objectively, it does make some sense. Even if it at first sounds off the wall. Cheers HarryAlffa (talk) 18:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
