1908 Melbourne Carnival

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Newby's souvenir carnival programme
(Note the different shape of 1858 and 1908 footballs)

The 1908 Melbourne Carnival was the inaugural Australian National Football Carnival, an Australian rules football interstate competition, held in Melbourne in August 1908. It was known at the time as the Jubilee Australasian Football Carnival because it was designed to commemorate 50 years of Australian rules football.

The winning team was presented with a silk pennant; and each member of the winning team received a gold championship medal.[1]

Although the 29 August final between Victoria and Western Australia was played in front of something like 15,000 spectators, it is certain that the crowd would have been considerably larger if it had not also been the first day of the American Fleet's eight day visit to Melbourne.[2]

Official opening[edit]

Official carnival programme

The official opening was conducted by Sir Thomas Gibson-Carmichael, the Governor of Victoria, at 3:00 PM on Wednesday 19 August 1908, in the interval between the first and second matches of the carnival (the first match started at 1:15 PM, the second at 3:30 PM). The crowd of 7,000+ was in an excited mood: in the first match, New Zealand had come back from a 26-point half-time deficit to win by a single point.

The seven participating teams, with each player in their team uniforms, lined up and formed a hollow square.

The official party, the Governor of Victoria, accompanied by his private secretary, Victor Albert Nelson Hood (1862–1929), Sir Thomas Bent, Premier of Victoria, H. C. A. Harrison, Australian Rules administrative pioneer (then 71 years old), Mr. Cornelius Michael "Con" Hickey (1866-1937), Fitzroy footballer in the (VFA 1887-1894), secretary of the Fitzroy Football Club (1893-1910), foundation member and first treasurer of the Victorian Football League, and the inaugural president of the Australian National Football Council (formed in 1906), Mr. E.L. "Ernie" Wilson, the first secretary of the Collingwood Football Club in the VFL, and secretary of the VFL from 1897-1929, and Mr. Albert E. Nash, president of the New South Wales Australian Football League, were each introduced to the captain of each team and shook hands.[3]

The ceremony was notable for the performance of "war cries" by both the New Zealand and Queensland teams; and, in the opinion of "Old Boy", despite not performing well on the football field, the Queensland "war cry" was the best of the two, in that its effort was "dramatic, descriptive, and interesting".[4] Although it is not clear (as it was in the newspaper accounts of the New Zealand team on other occasions) from any of the contemporary reports of the day's proceedings whether, on this occasion, the New Zealand "war cry" was specifically a haka or not, "Follower's" report in "The Age" strongly suggests that to be the case: "a feature of the [Governor's] inspection … was the Maori war cry, given with great zest by the New Zealand team, and equally stirring was the aboriginal battle cry of the Queenslanders".[5]

The second match, played immediately after the opening ceremony, was nowhere near as exciting: Tasmania beat Queensland by 140 points.

Teams[edit]

The competition took place between two sections, Section A (three teams), and Section B (four teams).

Those in Section A, considered to be the stronger of the two sections, were teams from South Australia, Western Australia, and Victoria. Because only players from the senior Victorian competition of the day, the Victorian Football League (or VFL), were eligible to play for "Victoria", the Victorian team was also referred to as "the VFL".

Those in Section B, considered to be the weaker of the two sections, were teams from New South Wales, Queensland, Tasmania, and New Zealand.

New South Wales[edit]

The New South Wales team included Conlin, Scott, Bob Rahilly, Hunter, G. Colley, E. Gluyas, and Algy Millhouse from the Barrier,[6] and G. Thomas, Maxfield, McConechy, Ralph Robertson, T. Vanman, C. Murray, J. Delaney, H.Welsh, A. Bartnell, J. O'Leary, C. Shipton, and F. Carrick from Sydney; Watson from Hay, O'Keefe from Narrandera, plus Greer and W. Hanes/Haines (locations unknown). During the carnival, the New South Wales team trained at the St Kilda Cricket Ground.[7]

New Zealand's Captain, Tom Wright

New Zealand[edit]

Former Collingwood player Tom Wright, who would be killed in action in France in 1916, was the captain of New Zealand. The selected team was: E. George, F.A. Lording, W. Monteith, J.G. Marshall, Tongue, H. Fletcher, J.J. Abfalter (Auckland), P.H. Elvidge, S.G. Darby, A. Swann (Waihi), M. Bonas, D. Patrick, E. Furness, A. McGrath, L.L. Paull (Wellington), G.P. Dempster, H.L. West, Wright, H. Wilkinson, A. Porter, A. Fisher. Paisley, F. Ross (Christchurch), with emergencies, Burns, Welch, and L.A. Breese from Auckland, and Grant, and T. Smith. During the carnival, the New Zealand team trained at the Richmond Cricket Ground and was coached by Richmond's Dick Condon.[8][9][10][11]

New Zealand's tour matches[edit]

This was the only time in the history of Australian rules "interstate" football matches that a team from New Zealand participated. It was anticipated that, immediately following the carnival, and before returning to New Zealand, the New Zealand team would play matches in Adelaide, Ballarat, Bendigo, Geelong, Sydney, Brisbane, and Newcastle.[12]

The New Zealand team played a match, in Adelaide, on 1 September 1908 (Eight Hours Day), before the Governor, George Le Hunte,[13] on a very wet ground (in several places the water was inches deep). South Australia won the match 5.8 (38) to 3.10 (28). The match was not as one-sided as the final scores indicate: the score at quarter time was South Australia 4.5 (29) to New Zealand 0.1 (1). In the process of the day, the New Zealand team performed two hakas, one before the match commenced, the other before the second half began.[14]

All in all, the New Zealand team won six out of the eleven matches they played on their tour, including the carnival matches against New South Wales and Queensland, and were described in the Melbourne press as "the surprise packet"; and, due to the fact that only two of their matches were played on dry grounds, they also became known as the "wet weather birds".[15]

Queensland[edit]

The selected team was:[16] J. Hay, M.S. "Merce" Hicks, E. Miller, A. M'Gregor and T. Morris (City), V. "Vic" Lowndes, M. O'Dwyer, J. Greenwood, and Jack Keir (Locomotives), W. MacDonald, G. Paget, H. Heidemann, and J. M'Cormack (Ipswich), L. Perkins, and H. Parker (Valley), L. Kelly, A. "Jack" Bolton, and H. Hopkins (Wynnum), Ralph McKellar (captain),[17] H. Coates, and A. Atkinson (Brisbane), and Lieutenant B. Watts (Thursday island). Emergencies: M. Cooper (Valley), A. Tipper (City), J. Hickey (West Moreton), and E. "Ernie" Watson (Ipswich). It seems that B. "Bas" Bolton was a later addition to the team. During the carnival, the Queensland team was coached by Jack Worrall, and trained at the Carlton Cricket Ground.[18]

South Australia[edit]

The selected team was; C.G. Gwynne, Ernie Johns, Jack Tredrea, Jack Chamberlain, Richard Townsend, S. Dickson, A.R. Le Messurier, E. Beare, A.C. Bennett, O.H. Hyman. H.W.D. Stoddart, C. Adcock, T. McKenzie. A. Ewers, A.E. Hewitt, Stewart Geddes (vice captain), George Wallace, Jack Mack, Tom Leahy, James Tierney, John Albert "Alby" Bahr (captain), Jack Woollard. During the carnival, the South Australian team trained at the East Melbourne Cricket Ground.[19]

The South Australian team that was defeated by Victoria 10.15 (75) to 2.14 (26) on 26 August 1908 was: Back, Ewers, Hyman, and Woollard; half-back, Stoddart, Beare, and McKenzie; centre, Hewitt, Tredrea, and Bennett; half-forward, Bahr, Townsend, and Chamberlain; forward, Dickson, Johns, and Gwynne; ruck, Tierney and Leahy; rover, Wallace.[20]

Tasmania[edit]

Victoria's Bill Busbridge

The captain of Tasmania was Bruce Carter.[21] The squad originally selected was: from the South: R. Bailey (half back), P. Orpwood (back),Walter Burrell(following and back), L. Bridges (wing), W. Arnold (centre), C. Ward (centre and half-back), E. RusseIl (wing), W. Lee (forward and rover), T. Abel (follower), C. Webb (follower and back), W. Forster (rover and half-forward); from the North: A. Tynan (full back), Badcock (half-back), Ride (back), Thomson (back), C. Searl (wing), H. Woolley (half-back and follower), Joe Littler (forward), Viv Valentine (forward); from North-West Coast: B. Carter (centre), Rutter (follower), Mahoney (follower); from West Coast: Trotter (centre and forward), George McLeod (forward and follower). Emergencies: Appleby (North-West), first back and follower; Albert Pannam (North West), first forward and second follower; Norman (North), rover and third forward; Tucker (South) second back and wing; Filgate (North-West), full back and wing.[22] During the carnival, the Tasmanian team trained at the South Melbourne Cricket Ground.[23]

Victoria[edit]

The Victorian team that defeated South Australia 10.15 (75) to 2.14 (26) on 26 August 1908 was: Back, Joe Pearce, Robert Nash, and Phonse Wood; half-back, Hugh Purse, Bill Busbridge, and Bill Luff; centre, Barclay Bailes, Rod McGregor, and George Bruce; half-forward, Paddy Shea, Dave McNamara, and Harvey Kelly; forward, Wally Johnson, Dick Lee, and Henry Young; ruck, Herbert Milne and Bert Franks; rover, Alick Ogilvie.[24]

Western Australia's Nipper Truscott

Before the first match was played, it was noted that six of the possible "Victorian" players, Barclay Bailes, Bert Franks, Bill Goddard, Harvey Kelly, Paddy Shea, and Phonse Wood had all played their first senior football in Western Australia.[25]

Western Australia[edit]

The selected team was: from metropolitan district: Jim Everett, Glenn, Leonard Edwards, James Doig, Harry Sharpe, Thomas McNamara, Sam Gravenall, Wyatt, Henry Thompson, Francis Dunn, Dick Sweetman, Billy Orr; from goldfields: William Trewhella, Phil Matson, William "Nipper" Truscott, Alex Robinson, Walter Smith, George Tyson, William Cook, George Renwick, William Metheral, J. "Snob" Polglaise, Charles Tyson, Joe O'Dea.[26] During the carnival, the Western Australian team trained at the Fitzroy Cricket Ground.[27]

Playing uniforms[edit]

In competition, the teams' uniforms were:

  • New South Wales: Light royal blue jersey with red waratah on breast; white knickers; royal blue hose.
  • New Zealand: All black jersey with gold fern leaf; black knickers; black hose,
  • Queensland: Dark maroon jersey with white 'Q' monogram on breast; white knickers; maroon hose with white tops.
  • South Australia: Brown jersey with turquoise blue arm bands and cuffs; white knickers; turquoise blue hose.
  • Tasmania: Myrtle green jersey, rose and primrose braces, map of Tasmania on breast with football in centre; white knickers; green hose.
  • Victoria: Oxford blue jersey with white letter 'V' on breast; white hose; oxford blue hose.
  • Western Australia: Dark green jersey with gold swan on breast; white knickers; dark green hose with white tops.

When not playing, the members of each team wore plain straw hats that clearly displayed their team's distinctive colours on their hat-bands:[28][29]

  • New South Wales: Light royal blue band, displaying a red waratah emblem.
  • New Zealand: Black band, displaying a gold fern leaf emblem.
  • Queensland: Dark maroon band, displaying a white letter "Q".
  • South Australia: Brown with turquoise band, displaying a football with the letters "S.A.".
  • Tasmania: Myrtle green band, displaying a small map of Tasmania in primrose, with a rose football in the centre;
  • Victoria: Oxford blue band, displaying a white letter 'V'.
  • Western Australia: dark green band, displaying a gold swan.

Results[edit]

All of the matches were played at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

Day One

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section B    New Zealand   9.9 (63)   New South Wales   8.14 (62)  Wednesday 19 August 1908
 Section B    Tasmania   22.22 (154)   Queensland   2.2 (14)  Wednesday 19 August 1908

Day Two

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section A/B    Victoria   25.21 (171)   New Zealand   5.10 (40)  Friday 21 August 1908

Day Three

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section B    Tasmania   8.14 (62)   New South Wales   4.11 (35)  Saturday 22 August 1908
 Section A    Western Australia   8.11 (59)   South Australia   8.5 (53)  Saturday 22 August 1908

Day Four

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section B    New Zealand   6.12 (48)   Queensland   4.11 (35)  Monday 24 August 1908

Day Five

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section A/B    Western Australia   17.12 (114)   New South Wales   12.3 (75)  Tuesday 25 August 1908

Day Six

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section A    Victoria   10.15 (75)   South Australia   2.14 (26)  Wednesday 26 August 1908
 Section B    Tasmania   11.18 (84)   New Zealand   1.12 (18)  Wednesday 26 August 1908[30]

Day Seven

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section B    New South Wales   13.15 (93)   Queensland   8.11 (59)  Thursday 27 August 1908

Day Eight

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section A/B    South Australia   16.20 (116)   Tasmania   7.7 (49)  Saturday 29 August 1908
 Section A    Victoria   13.22 (100)   Western Australia   6.8 (44)  Saturday 29 August 1908

Ladders[edit]

Section A

Team P W L D F A % Pts
1 Victoria 3 3 0 0 346 110 314.5 12
2 Western Australia 3 2 1 0 217 228 95.1 8
3 South Australia 3 1 2 0 195 183 106.5 4


Section B

Team P W L D F A % Pts
1 Tasmania 4 3 1 0 349 183 190.7 12
2 New Zealand 4 2 2 0 169 352 47.7 8
3 New South Wales 4 1 3 0 265 298 88.9 4
4 Queensland 3 0 3 0 108 295 36.6 0

Best players[edit]

Victoria: Shea, Pearce, Busbridge, Luff, McGregor, Bailes, McNamara

Western Australia: Gravenall, Dunne, Matson, Metherell, Orr, Truscott

South Australia: Tredrea, Tierney, Le Mesurier, Gwynne, Chamberlain, Townsend

Tasmania: Lee, Mahoney, Bridges, Webb, Littler, Arnold

New Zealand: Darby, Elvidge, Wilkins, Wright, George

New South Wales: Colley, Robertson, Rahilly, Gluyas, Maxfield

Queensland: Coates, Watts, Kelly, Paget, Hicks

See also[edit]

Footnotes[edit]

  1. ^ Australian Rules: Australasian Carnival, The Sydney Mail, (Wednesday, 12 August 1908), p.443.
  2. ^ Umpire, "Football Jubilee: Australasian Championship: Won by Victoria", The Argus, (Monday, 31 August 1908), p.5.
  3. ^ Football Carnival: Opened in Melbourne, The Advertiser, (Thursday, 20 August 1908), p.7.
  4. ^ Old Boy, "Football Jubilee: Australasian Championships: A Fine Display", The Argus, (Thursday, 20 August 1908), p.7.
  5. ^ Follower, "Football Jubilee Carnival: A Successful Opening", The Age, (Thursday, 20 August 1908), p.11.
  6. ^ Sporting News: Football: Melbourne Football Carnival, The Advertiser, (Tuesday, 18 August 1908), p.9.
  7. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: New South Wales, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  8. ^ Football "Social", The (Wellington) Evening Post, Vol.76, No.5, (6 July 1908), p.2.
  9. ^ The Jubilee Carnival: New Zealand Representative Team, The Mercury, (Monday, 3 August 1908),p.7.
  10. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee, The Mercury, (Thursday, 11 August 1908),p.8.
  11. ^ The Jubilee Carnival: New Zealand Team: Arrival in Melbourne, The (Launceston) Examiner, (Thursday, 13 August 1908), p.3.
  12. ^ New Zealand, The Advertiser, (Monday, 24 February 1908), p.7.
  13. ^ Tuesday's Football Matches, The Register, (Wednesday, 2 September 1908), p.4.)
  14. ^ Tuesday's Football Matches, The Register, (Wednesday, 2 September 1908), p.4; Football: South Australia v. New Zealand: Home Team Successful, The Register, (Wednesday, 2 September 1908), p.8.
  15. ^ Returned Athletes, "The Surprise Packet", The (Wellington) Evening Post, Vol.76, No.73, (23 September 1908), p.7.
  16. ^ Interstate Australian Football: Queensland Team for Melbourne, The Brisbane Courier, (Monday, 20 July 1908(, p.6.
  17. ^ A Fine Queensland Legacy, AFL Queensland: News, 11 June 2010.
  18. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: Queensland, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  19. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: South Australia, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  20. ^ South Australia Defeated, The Register, (Thursday, 27 August 1908), p.8.
  21. ^ The Captain Interviewed, The Examiner, (Thursday 3 September 1908), p.6.
  22. ^ Football: Australasian Football Carnival: The Tasmanian Selection, The Mercury, (Thursday, 27 July 1908),p.7.
  23. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: Tasmania, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  24. ^ South Australia Defeated, The Register, (Thursday, 27 August 1908), p.8.
  25. ^ Football: The Australian Game: Western Australian Inter-State Team, The West Australian, (Tuesday, 18 August 1908), p.7.
  26. ^ Western Australian Team, The Sydney Morning Herald, (Friday 17 July 1908), p.10.
  27. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: Western Australia, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  28. ^ Australian Rules: Australasian Carnival, The Sydney Mail, (Wednesday, 12 August 1908), p.443.
  29. ^ Football: The Australian Game, The West Australian, (Saturday 22 August 1908), p.13.
  30. ^ JUBILEE FOOTBALL. The (Launceston) Examiner, (1908, August 27), p. 5

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