Archimedes Patti

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Archimedes Patti
Birth nameArchimedes Leonidas Attilio Patti
Born(1913-07-21)July 21, 1913
Bronx, New York City, U.S.
DiedApril 23, 1998(1998-04-23) (aged 84)
Winter Park, Florida, U.S.
Allegiance United States
Branch United States Army
Service years1941–1957
RankLieutenant colonel
UnitOffice of Strategic Services
WarsWorld War II

Archimedes Leonidas Attilio Patti (July 21, 1913 – April 23, 1998) was a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army and an Office of Strategic Services officer who headed operations in Kunming and Hanoi in 1945 when he was a Major.[1]: p.89 Patti is known for having worked closely with Hồ Chí Minh and the Việt Minh,[2] this before[a] and after[b] Ho became President of the Provisional Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam in 1945.[3]

Early life[edit]

Patti was born in The Bronx, New York City, on July 21, 1913 to Sicilian immigrants. His father worked as a tailor, his mother as a dress maker.

He was married to Margaret Telford. They had two daughters.


The 1940 U.S. census lists Archimedes' profession as "Special Agent, U.S. War Department." In 1941, he joined the U.S. Army[6] and served in Europe, where he was in contact with various anti-Axis resistance organizations including groups in North Africa, Italy, and Yugoslavia.[7]

He was later transferred to the Office of Strategic Services in China after he had unknowingly volunteered for the mission in January 1944 on an assignment at Anzio with OSS Director William J. Donovan.

Indochina and Vietnam[edit]

During his career in China and Southeast Asia, Patti met Hồ Chí Minh, the leader of the Việt Minh who was later the leader and national hero of North Vietnam. In later interviews, Patti explained that his mission in Vietnam was to establish an intelligence network but not to assist the French in any way in their attempt to re-gain control over their former colony, a policy choice that he believed to be linked to U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt's belief in the self-determination of all peoples.[7]

However, Patti, from a distance, helped to organize, train, and equip the fledgling Vietnamese forces that Ho Chi Minh was uniting and marshaling against the Japanese, which later became known as the People's Army of Vietnam. Patti worked closely with Ho Chi Minh and indeed commented on his early drafts of a Vietnamese constitution.

In my opinion the Vietnam War was a great waste. There was no need for it to happen in the first place. At all. None whatsoever. During all the years of the Vietnam War no one ever approached me to find out what had happened in 1945 or in '44. In all the years that I spent in The Pentagon, Department of State in the White House, never was I approached by anyone in authority. However, I did prepare a large number, and I mean about, oh, well over fifteen position papers on our position in Vietnam. But I never knew what happened to them. Those things just disappeared, they just went down the dry well.

— From an interview with Archimedes Patti in 1981[7]

Patti stated that when he arrived in Kunming in March 1945, the French colonials were either unwilling or unable to assist him in establishing an American intelligence network in Indochina and so he turned to "the only source [available]," the Viet Minh.

Patti was introduced to Ho Chi Minh by Colonel Austin Glass, the OSS expert in Indochina. Patti met Ho Chi Minh on the Indochinese-Chinese border in late April 1945. Patti agreed to provide intelligence to the allies if he could have "a line of communication with the allies."[7]

Patti later helped to co-ordinate some small attacks against the Japanese Imperial Army by using a small group of operatives known as the OSS Deer Team under the command of Major Allison K. Thomas, who worked directly with Ho Chi Minh in August 1945.[8]

Patti arrived in Hanoi on a mercy mission with an OSS agent, Carleton B. Swift, and a French government official, Jean Sainteny.[9] His primary mission was to assist in the repatriation of allied prisoners-of-war, as the U.S. government feared reprisals against them by the Japanese after the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His secondary mission was to gather intelligence.[7]

Patti met with Ho Chi Minh on August 26, 1945 over lunch at his residence in Hanoi. Several days later, Ho Chi Minh read a draft of the Vietnamese Proclamation of Independence to him. Patti offered several corrections on what he perceived to be a nearly-exact copy of the U.S. Declaration of Independence.[7]

Indeed, Ho Chi Minh had requested an actual copy of the U.S. Declaration of Independence from Colonel Austin Glass. On September 2, Ho Chi Minh declared independence, and some hours later, Patti had dinner with him. In the fall of 1945, French colonial forces had returned to Indochina on U.S.-manned Liberty ships.[7]

Patti left Hanoi in late September 1945 after French allegations that the Americans had been fomenting a revolution.[9]

Later life and death[edit]

Patti retired from the military in 1957. For 13 years, he was a crisis management specialist in the Office of Emergency Planning in Washington, DC.

In 1981, Patti stated that Julia Child, who had worked at the OSS in 1945, had allegedly submitted his position papers on Vietnam to appropriate authorities, but the way in which he had found them upon his retirement was exactly as she had sent them, and they had never been opened or read:[7]

The question rises from time to time as to whether or not the same situation doesn't apply to Iran, to Afghanistan, to El Salvador, to any other trouble spot in the world. That perhaps there are people who may know the causes that actually led to what followed and have never been approached or asked to give at least, if not their views, at least to give what facts they have. That is a question.[7]

In retirement, he wrote a book and several articles on Vietnam. In 1980, he wrote "Why Vietnam?: Prelude to America's Albatross," which describes his relationship with the communist guerrilla leader Ho Chi Minh during the mid-1940s.

He died on April 23, 1998, at the age of 84, and is buried at Arlington National Cemetery.[10]


  • Why Vietnam?: Prelude to America's Albatross (University of California Press, 1982)[11]


  1. ^ On 1945 Aug 26, Ho Chi Minh arrived in Hanoi, invited Patti for lunch, and expressed his concerns about the French and the Chinese in Tonkin. "Patti listened intently. He had met with Ho Chi Minh once before, in April 1945, in southern China, on the subject of potential OSS–Viet Minh cooperation in the struggle against Japan."[3]: p.100
  2. ^ Ho Chi Minh became President of the Provisional Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) on 1945 Aug 28[4] or 29,[5]: p.142 whereas Patti left Hanoi on 1945 Oct 1 "after sharing one last dinner with Ho Chi Minh".[1]: p.113


  1. ^ a b Brocheux, Pierre (2007), Ho Chi Minh: A Biography, translated by Claire Duiker, Cambridge University Press, New York.
  2. ^ "Book Review: Temporary Allies: The OSS and Ho Chi Minh, Diplomatic History, E. Bruce Reynolds". Archived from the original on 2012-05-10. Retrieved 2013-01-01.
  3. ^ a b Logevall, Fredrik (2012), Embers of War: The Fall of an Empire and the Making of America's Vietnam, Random House, New York, 864 pp.
  4. ^ Tú Châu (17 August 2020). "Cách mạng tháng Tám và sự ra đời của Chính phủ Lâm thời qua một số tư liệu, tài liệu lưu trữ (tiếp theo) - 08:47 AM 17/08/2020 - Lượt xem: 603 - Bài viết trình bày đôi nét về cuộc Tổng khởi nghĩa giành chính quyền mùa thu Tháng Tám năm 1945, sự ra đời của Chính phủ Lâm thời nước Việt Nam Dân chủ Cộng hoà" (in Vietnamese). Trung tâm Lưu trữ quốc gia I (National Archives Nr. 1, Hanoi) - Cục Văn thư và Lưu trữ nhà nước (State Records And Archives Management Department Of Việt Nam). Retrieved 8 May 2021.
  5. ^ Devillers, Philippe (1952), Histoire du Viêt-Nam de 1940 à 1952, Seuil, Paris.
  6. ^ "Archimedes Patti". IMDb.
  7. ^ a b c d e f g h i "Vietnam: A Television History; Roots of a War; Interview with Archimedes L. A. Patti, 1981".
  8. ^ "Ho, Giap and OSS Agent Henry Prunier", By Claude G. Berube, Originally published by Vietnam magazine. Published Online: May 24, 2011
  9. ^ a b "Vietnam: A Television History; Interview with Carleton Swift".
  10. ^ Burial Detail: Patti, Archimedes L – ANC Explorer
  11. ^ Why Viet Nam?: Prelude to America's Albatross at Google Books

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