Guys 'n' Dolls

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Guys 'n' Dolls
OriginUnited Kingdom
GenresPop, MOR
InstrumentsVocals, keyboards
Years active1974–1985
LabelsMagnet Records
Past membersPaul Griggs
Dominic Grant
Rosie Hetherington
Martine Howard
Julie Forsyth
David Van Day
Thereza Bazar

Guys 'n' Dolls were a UK pop group comprising a three-girl/three-boy line-up. In the mid-1970s, they scored UK top-ten hits with the singles "There's a Whole Lot of Loving" and "You Don't Have to Say You Love Me".[1] They found further success in Holland in the late 1970s where they had a number one hit with "You're My World".


Guys 'n' Dolls were formed in November 1974, after Ammo Productions held auditions for three young men and three young women to perform as a vocal group. The six original members were Paul Griggs, David Van Day, Dominic Grant, Thereza Bazar, Martine Howard, and Julie Forsyth (daughter of Sir Bruce Forsyth).

Guys 'n' Dolls released their first hit single, "There's a Whole Lot of Loving", in January 1975. The song was originally recorded in September 1974 by a group of session singers (including Tony Burrows and Clare Torry) for a TV advertisement for McVitie's biscuits. Guys 'n' Dolls were put together to cash in upon the popularity of the jingle and to present it as a single. However the group was not ready in time to record an entirely new version for the single's hasty release and so the voices of the session singers remained on the single.[2][3] The song became an immediate hit, rising to No.2 in the UK singles chart, launching the group to overnight stardom.[4]

The following year, the group scored highly again as their cover of "You Don't Have to Say You Love Me" peaked at No.5. Other singles by the group charted more modestly and they only charted one album, 1975's Guys 'n' Dolls.[4] In 1977 however, they scored a No.1 hit in both the Netherlands and Belgium with "You're My World", launching them on a new phase of their career.[5]

By mid 1977, Van Day and Bazar were complaining about the direction of the group to the point that the management asked them to leave. As agreed with them however, publicity at the time showed that leaving the group was their own decision to concentrate on songwriting.[6] The pair did go on to form the duo Dollar, who went on to score several hits in the late 1970s and 1980s. Guys 'n' Dolls continued as a quartet, with their third album Together (1977) depicting just the four remaining members. The group scored a final minor hit in the UK in 1978, and after failing to renew their contract with Magnet Records, they concentrated on their success in Holland, where they continued having hits for the next few years. In late 1978, the group performed as the opening act for Frank Sinatra for a series of London concerts.[6]

In 1979, the group took part in the A Song For Europe contest, hoping to represent the UK in the Eurovision Song Contest with the song "How Do You Mend a Broken Heart?" Although the show was abandoned due to a BBC strike, the song finished in tenth place of the 12 entries when the judges cast votes on the audio recordings of the songs.[7]

In 1980, Forsyth and Grant had their first child together, plus Martine Howard and the Guys 'n' Dolls Dutch record producer Gerard Stellaard got married and moved to the Netherlands. After marrying, Martine Howard left the group, and was replaced by Forsyth's younger sister, Laura early in 1981. The change was short-lived, when she was replaced by Rosie Hetherington, who had previously been a part of the dance troupe Legs & Co.[8]

Guys 'n' Dolls finished as a unit in December 1985, having spent eleven years together. Grant and Forsyth, performed as the duo Grant & Forsyth, and had another five hits in the Netherlands.[9] In 1988, Forsyth wrote the UK's Eurovision Song Contest entry "Go" performed by Scott Fitzgerald. Both Forsyth and Grant, together with ex-Jigsaw member Des Dyer, sang backing vocals for the song's performance at the contest in Dublin, Ireland. The song finished second by a margin of one point behind Celine Dion's song for Switzerland, making it the closest ever run contest.[10]

The original line up of Guys 'n' Dolls (Grant, Forsyth, Griggs, Howard, Van Day and Bazar) reunited for the first time in 31 years for a major television show in the Netherlands on 22 March 2008.[11] This was preceded on Friday 21 March by a day of press and TV interviews.

Griggs has published a book called Diary of a Musician, based on diaries he kept from 1960. It includes a large in-depth section on the story of Guys 'n' Dolls.[12]



  • 1975 "There's a Whole Lot of Loving" (UK No. 2, NL #9, BEL #19)[13][14]
  • 1975 "Here I Go Again" (UK #33)[13]
  • 1975 "Let's All Get Together"
  • 1976 "You Don't Have to Say You Love Me" (UK No. 5, NL No. 12, BEL #8)[13]
  • 1976 "If Only for the Good Times"
  • 1976 "Stoney Ground" (UK #38)[13]
  • 1977 "You're My World" (NL No. 1, B No. 1, G #48)
  • 1977 "Mamacita" (NL No. 7, BEL #8)
  • 1977 "Growing Pains"
  • 1977 "Angel of the Morning" (NL No. 11, BEL #16)
  • 1977 "Let's Make Love"
  • 1978 "Only Loving Does It" (UK #42)[13]
  • 1978 "Same Old Way"
  • 1978 "Something's Gotten Hold of My Heart" (NL #48)
  • 1979 "How Do You Mend a Broken Heart" (NL No. 12 BEL #16)
  • 1980 "Our Song" (NL No. 9 BEL #24)
  • 1980 "Starship of Love"
  • 1980 "Love Lost in a Day" (NL #19)
  • 1981 "I Got the Fire in Me" (NL No. 26, BEL #16)
  • 1982 "Broken Dreams" (NL No. 12, BEL #14)
  • 1982 "I Heard It on the Radio"
  • 1983 "Glory to the Beautiful People"
  • 1983 "Freeze"
  • 1983 "Silent Night"
  • 1984 "I Feel Like Cryin'"
  • 1985 "Phoney People"


  • 1975 Guys 'n' Dolls (UK #43)[13]
  • 1976 The Good Times (NL #4)[14]
  • 1977 Together (NL #8)
  • 1980 Our Songs (NL #23)
  • 1982 Happy Together


  1. ^ Roberts, David (2006). British Hit Singles & Albums (19th ed.). London: Guinness World Records Limited. p. 238. ISBN 1-904994-10-5.
  2. ^ "1974–1975". Archived from the original on 5 September 2012. Cite uses deprecated parameter |deadurl= (help)
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  4. ^ a b "GUYS & DOLLS | full Official Chart History | Official Charts Company". Retrieved 30 August 2017.
  5. ^ Hung, Steffen. " – Guys 'n' Dolls – You're My World". Retrieved 30 August 2017.
  6. ^ a b Griggs, Paul (2008). Diary of a Musician. Fenman Books. ISBN 978095600810-7.
  7. ^ [1] Archived 5 December 2007 at the Wayback Machine
  8. ^ "Rosie Hetherington Bio". IMDb.
  9. ^ "Top 40-artiest: Grant & Forsyth". Retrieved 2 November 2014.
  10. ^ O'Connor, John Kennedy. The Eurovision Song Contest – The Official History. Carlton Books UK ISBN 978-1-84442-994-3
  11. ^ [2] Archived 3 August 2008 at the Wayback Machine
  12. ^ "ペニス増大サプリ【女人禁制】極秘の威力". Retrieved 22 August 2014.
  13. ^ a b c d e f "Guys & Dolls – Full Official Chart History". Official Charts Company. Retrieved 20 January 2016.
  14. ^ a b Hung, Steffen. " – Discography Guys 'N' Dolls". Retrieved 30 August 2017.

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