Messy Marv

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Messy Marv
Birth name Marvin Watson Jr.
Also known as The Boy Boy Young Mess, MessCalen
Born (1976-03-19) March 19, 1976 (age 39)[1]
Genres Hip hop West Coast hip hop
Occupation(s) Rapper
Years active 1995–present
Labels Scalen LLC / Koch Entertainment / SMC Recordings / Click Clack Records
Associated acts Rich The Factor, Mac Dre, JT The Bigga Figga San Quinn, Mitchy Slick, Berner, TraeThe Jacka, DJ Quik, The Game, Suge Knight, Yukmouth

Marvin Watson Jr. (born March 19, 1976),[1] better known by his stage name Messy Marv, is an American rapper who moved to the Fillmore District of San Francisco, California after graduating from Mt Diablo High in Concord and living in Pittsburg with his alcoholic father who moved to Fillmore after Marv graduated and kicked him out He is the cousin of San Quinn, Stevie Johnson, and Ya Boy.[2][3]

Recent career[edit]

Messy Marv was born Marvin Watson Jr in San Francisco CA on March 19 1976 and grew up in Oakland CA until age 12 living with his grandmother because he never knew his mother at age 12 Marv moved to Pittsburg CA 3300 Steele Dr with his alcoholic father and attended Mt Diablo High School and graduated in 1994 after high school Marv and his father moved to the Eddy St Fillmore San Francisco Housing Projects but due to his father's alcohol problems Marv left and began rapping and moved in with San Quinn On November 2, 2007, Messy Marv was released from jail after serving twelve months on weapons charges.[4] Before, during and following his jail sentence, he had several previous albums charting, including Cake & Ice Cream 2, released in 2009 and peaked on the R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart at #39 and on the Rap Albums chart at #12, and Blow: Blocks and Boat Docks, a collaboration album with Berner released in 2010 which peaked at #48 on the R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart. In the spring of 2012, Messy Marv released the hit mixtape, Da Frank Lucas Dat Neva Wore Da Mink Coat and released the hit single, "You Gotta Pay Me". In 2013, he announced the release of his newest LP "Playboy Gangsta" under his new moniker LilPaperdupMess, and released 3 singles as promotionals for the album: "We Killas", "Beautiful Kalifornia", & "A Girlfriend Ain't What I Need". Marv confirmed via Twitter a release date of July 23, 2013 for the LP.


Obie Trice[edit]

In 2005, he was in a feud with G-Unit, which escalated when Obie Trice, a member of Shady Records, went to the radio station KMEL and said, "in San Francisco I have to cover my ass." A diss track was released by Guce and Messy Marv, "50 Explanations", on the album Pill Music: The Rico Act, Vol. 1. 50 Cent and Sha Money XL then exchanged words over the phone with Guce's camp. He afterwards said, "it's over with, and it never kicked off".[5]

San Quinn[edit]

Messy Marv started a feud with his cousin San Quinn on September 22, 2008, by calling the latter a "snitch". On December 11, Quinn told HipHopDX that he "loves" Messy Marv despite the diss tracks that they have both sent to each other.[6] In a 2010 interview with WordofSouth, he stated the reason for the beef was because he was "talking too much", but that they are attempting to squash the feud.[7]

Spider Loc[edit]

On April 19, 2007, rapper Spider Loc released a diss track at Marv, and Game called "Ova Killa" featuring Papa Smurf.[8]

Mistah F.A.B.[edit]

In 2009, Messy Marv mocked rapper Mistah F.A.B.'s chain getting stolen repeatedly.[9] This led to diss tracks being sent between the rappers, including F.A.B. sending one entitled "Okay" where he impersonates Watson Jr.[10]

Philthy Rich[edit]

On September 25, 2013, Philthy Rich released a track entitled "Swear to God" featuring Kurt Diggler. It dissed Marv and Bay Area rappers Kafani & DB Tha General.[11] The track is to appear on his upcoming album N.E.R.N.L. 3. In response, Marv plans on releasing a diss record entitled Philthy Rich Is a Bitch on October 22 under his alias LilPaperdupMess.[12] On October 15, Philthy Rich released a diss track at Marv in his freestyle to Drake's "Pound Cake / Paris Morton Music 2".[13] The next day, Marv released a diss track at Philthy entitled "I'm Right Here". The same day, October 16, Philthy released a diss record entitled Messy Marv aka the Girl Girl Is a Fake Blood.



  1. ^ a b "California Birth Index, 1905–1995". Family Tree Legends Records Collection (Online Database). 
  2. ^ Birchmeier, Jason. "Messy Marv > Biography". allmusic. Retrieved 2012-01-25. 
  3. ^ "iTunes - Music - Messy Marv". Retrieved 20 March 2015. 
  4. ^ "For S.F. rappers, another dream deferred", San Francisco Chronicle, May 15, 2007
  5. ^ "Guce Music and DJ mix sets - beatMP3". Retrieved 20 March 2015. 
  6. ^ HipHopDX (12 December 2008). "San Quinn: Fillmore's Finest". HipHopDX. Retrieved 20 March 2015. 
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  8. ^ HipHopDX (20 April 2007). "Spider Loc f. Papa Smurf". HipHopDX. Retrieved 20 March 2015. 
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  10. ^ "Mistah F.A.B. (As Messy Marv) Ft. Too Short & JT The Bigga Figga – Okay (Messy Marv Diss)". The Sermon's Domain. Retrieved 20 March 2015. 
  11. ^ Video on YouTube
  12. ^ "Exclusive: Lil Paperd Up Mess – Philthy Rich Is A Bitch (Mixtape Cover)". Retrieved 20 March 2015. 
  13. ^ "Philthy Rich – “Pound Cake” (Messy Marv diss)". Hip Hop Vibe. Retrieved 20 March 2015. 

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