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Musical Notation in Articles?[edit]

I've noticed that articles which involve the writing of musical score do so by inserting graphics. Therefore, if a user wishes to notate something they must use an external program to do so and save as an image. I was wondering if it would be possible to introduce musical notation like that which is used in mathematical articles to express formulae.

I'm not sure whether Wikipedia uses something MathML or LaTeX based for its mathematics, however that is the sort of thing I'm talking about. MusicTex perhaps?

Options: http://www.ctan.org/cgi-bin/search.py?metadataSearch=music&metadataSearchSubmit=Search 82.3.240.21 (talk) 23:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikisource:Sheet music, et al.. ¦ Reisio (talk) 01:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
This could potentially be added to the WikiMedia software, but would be very complicated to implement. -download | sign! 21:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews import[edit]

We should take advantage of the User:Wikinews Importer Bot. Λυδαcιτγ 18:59, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

 Done RichardF (talk) 01:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

List of...[edit]

Is there a real need to have articles for "List of <genre> <musicial instrument players>"? Of the ones I had a look at here, here, and here, these types of lists would be better off in categories, of which there already are. UnfriendlyFire (talk) 00:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Asked atWikipedia:WikiProject Music UnfriendlyFire (talk) 02:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Hello, my name is Iron Chef. Just wanted to say that you all have done an excelent job in setting up this portal! The composite image at the top of the page looks great, and everything seems to be very well organised. I am the administrator at my own Wikia Wiki called Garage Bands, and I could use some help setting up Portals and pages simular to this one. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm spamming, because all I really want is some help setting up portals and attracting users. If anyone would like to help me with this, please let me know :). (My Garage Bands Talk Page) --Iron Chef (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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Image:Bandeau_portail_musique.jpg has unfortunately been deleted. Is anyone up for making a replacement? Λυδαcιτγ 05:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I was the author of the banner, I made a backup "just in case". I hope I'll find enough time someday to make a new one.. Dake (talk) 21:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know where to ask my question[edit]

Hi I'm Omar. Wikipedia helped me follow the singles/albums of my favourite singers but something is really missing. A year ago (something like that) you still putted the chart positions in the infobox. It was fantastic! But now, you don't put it there anymore. Why that? It was very good that way!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.128.75 (talk) 15:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Is it useful for solfege/harmony/...?[edit]

I built this tables about notes-keys. Maybe you can find it useful to put in any article, it's up to you. On the other hand, it shows how some notes articles are not done: could be done a redirect as in G-flat minor and A-sharp major (I'm just starting learning music, so I don't know myself if it would be correct). If you use the tables or a version please tell me to learn more. Bandeira Nunca M C3 A1is.png Sobreira (parlez) 14:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Box formatting[edit]

Malyctenar, I don't understand this change, from this formatting to this. Certain sections should be split into two columns, as they were, to reduce the amount of display space taken up by the box on the main Portal page. Λυδαcιτγ 01:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Try watching it in 1024*768. The template was a terrible mess: Stuffing the "Composers & musicians" into a column with 20% width, and THEN splitting it into two, means most of the names were broken on two lines; together with centering creating staggered edges, this made it rather hard to read the contents. This split was especially pointless for the genres & forms column, which (even bloated by occasional linebreaking) took up less then half of the table's height. And there was a lot of blankspace on the bottom of the other columns as well.
I do admit that some names fit into the narrow semicolumn, i. e. my edit increased the total height of the table. To reduce it back, I see these solutions: Either separate the few modern pop musicians from the majority of classical composers (which would be a good idea anyway) and put them on the side as well (utilizing some more blank space). Or, return to the "two equally filled columns" layout, but that would probably require using a table code directly and not the inflexible col templates. I'm willing to code either, provided I don't step on anybody's toes. What do you say? --Malyctenar (talk) 10:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
P. S. BTW, you might want to shorten your sig as shown above.
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Yes, I see what you mean. However, at 1280x800, with no broken names, the height of the box is nearly doubled by the change (see images). If you can get the split columns to work with a custom-coded table, that would be excellent. Λυδαcιτγ 00:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

List of contemporary classical ensembles[edit]

Is this page really necessary? It contains a list of ensembles which can be already found in Category:Contemporary classical music ensembles. Except from the list itself, it contains no more information. --Tomaxer (talk) 20:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Why no progressive rock in genres?[edit]

Sorry if I'm posting this incorrectly, but I couldn't help that progressive rock--arguably one of the most prevalent geres of rock in the 70s--is not listed in the "genres" section. Or am I missing something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yessongsbrasil (talkcontribs) 04:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

No Jazz Composers? Just Mostly Classical!?[edit]

I Know I'm new here, but I joined to address matters such as these(Lack of Diversity Imagination & Recognition{as well as flaws}). Only six out of twenty six are not Classical Composers. Thats why I suggest any of the following Composers:
Duke Ellington, James Reese Europe, John Philip Sousa, Benny Goodman, Jelly Roll Morton, Fats Waller, Django Reinhardt, Oscar Peterson, Thelonious Monk, Irving Berlin, Count Basie, Sun Ra, George Gershwin, John Coltrane or Miles Davis to replace Jean Sibelius in the Top 26. --Morahman7vn (talk) 02:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Bands?[edit]

Many bands turn up under WikiProject Musicians (under WikiProject Biography). Shouldn't the "band" be over under WikiProject Music somewhere? I see no where to put bands? -- Mjquin_id (talk) 06:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Some bands turn up as Musicians but I agree that there is a problem with where to put bands, of whatever description. I came here seeking a template for River City Brass Band. I looked at other brass bands, and Brass band and Concert band, but these articles don't seem to have any project templates in their talk pages. Does anyone have an answer? --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

New layout[edit]

Just wondering about changes to the layout made the other week. I like the idea of a WikiProject Music box, but I'm not sure about the proposed new colour scheme. Can we discuss, thanks :-) Madder (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

It was a vast upgrade to all music portals ....But all ok the portal still looks fine .. Category:Music portals Buzzzsherman (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Heaviness/lightness?[edit]

"Music can be in many forms of heaviness and lightness, heaviest being black viking metal, lightest being petite classical."

This sentence in the portal intro just stands out to me as very strange. While I'm not refuting it, I'm not so sure it should be stated in such a blankly authoritative manner either. If we're going to talk about the general qualities of music in the intro, isn't it best to stick to the better established ideas of tempo, rhythm, and dynamics? "Heaviness" may be more accessible, and in some ways descriptive, but it's also very subjective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.76.186.98 (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree, and I think it may have been vandalism. I have removed this sentence. Feel free to discuss here if we want to put it back. Madder (talk) 18:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Great concert photografs from Hamburg, Germany 1970s[edit]

Hi. Here the photografer Heinrich Klaffs from Hamburg, Germany, puts his collection of concert pics from the 1970s under a useable licence on flickr. Enjoy! --Krächz (talk) 20:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Kevin Was Here[edit]

Hello, I am Kevin. I am currently running a series of projects, one of them being trombone. Please help me by visiting my main page and contributing to my research project. —Preceding undated comment added 22:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC).

Project WikiLyrics![edit]

Hello, Please consider contributing to a new project I have created, Project WikiLyrics. You will find all of the information you need about joining and helping out with the project. I'm really excited about this project! If you like music as much as I do, please consider joining this project and helping out! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctyonahl (talkcontribs) 20:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Ross Royce[edit]

Can someone take a look at this article - it has clearly been written by his own PR department, and needs a considerable amount of work to make it encyclopedic. Cheers. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion discussion[edit]

Please see this Musical portal related CfD discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_September_6#Category:Celebrity_birthdays. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Infobox Edition Proposal[edit]

I propose to add to the Artist Infobox a section where it shows the artist's influences, and to whom they influenced; just like the one in the Philosophy area. Here's an example:

Karl Heinrich Marx
Karl Marx 001.jpg
Marx in 1875

I believe this addition will give a better understanding of the different periods of music and which artists got their "special sound" from. Kind of like saying:
Queen was influenced by The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, Black Sabbath, Slade, Deep Purple and David Bowie.

Queen influenced Anthrax, Nirvana, Def Leppard, Dream Theater, Extreme, Trivium, Foo Fighters, Franz Ferdinand, George Michael, Green Day, Guns N' Roses, Iron Maiden, Journey, Kansas, Katy Perry, Keane, Lady Gaga, Manic Street Preachers, Meat Loaf, Metallica, Mika, Muse, My Chemical Romance, Panic at the Disco, Queensrÿche, Van Halen, Radiohead, Robbie Williams, Trent Reznor, Steve Vai, Sum 41, Styx, The Flaming Lips, The Killers, and The Smashing Pumpkins.

Only that in the neat style of a table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveMX (talkcontribs) 03:21, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Help resolve a dispute at CBS Records[edit]

Go to Talk:CBS Records and help decide whether the article should be on both business entities called CBS Records. We have CBS Records (1962-1988) with 1,300 incoming links and CBS Records (2006) with 4 potential links. The alternative for the article is just CBS Records (2006) with 4 potential links and then change all 1,300 incoming links to one of the other business entities related to CBS Records (1962-1988) such as Sony which bought the company in 1988 or Columbia Records or Epix Records or any other of the subsidiary labels owned by RCA Records. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Beatles RfC[edit]

You are invited to participate in an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/The Beatles on the issue of capitalising the definite article when mentioning that band's name in running prose. This long-standing dispute is the subject of an open mediation case and we are requesting your help with determining the current community consensus. Thank you for your time. For the mediators. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 23:46, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Portal maintenance[edit]

I note that the Selected article has not been updated since 2007. Is anyone able to take over maintaining and updating the portal or converting the stale sections to randomised content? Otherwise I fear its featured status will require review. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:05, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I've installed a randomised selection of 10 featured articles to be going on with. If no-one objects, I'll randomise the "Did you know" box next week. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Excellent, thank you. Espresso Addict (talk) 10:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 Done I've created 20 random sub-pages each with one picture and four DYKs. The full list of music-related DYK articles is in my sandbox (permanent link). -- John of Reading (talk) 14:31, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Question[edit]

Could anybody lend me a hand? Back in the day there used to be an article which listed songs which shared the same title, but which were completely unrelated. It was pretty extensive and encompassed many songs and artists. I've searched for it a lot recendtly, but haven't found it. Thanks in advance, --Sn0wflake (talk) 01:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of sets of unrelated songs with identical titles? Luckily you have the admin super-power needed to read it. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Wow, thank you a whole lot for digging this up. Despite how far this article strays from the standards we follow today, this is one of those really cool things that made the Wikipedia something really fun for me back then... I kind of really want to mirror it somewhere... maybe on my Userspace or something. --Sn0wflake (talk) 03:37, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

RS for music[edit]

What sites are RS for music, specifically genres? Is such a list maintained? Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 22:02, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Leon Gurvitch[edit]

Who is? Bye, --79.31.123.164 (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

AfD Imaginary Records[edit]

Can I please get some kind fellows to contribute to the AfD for the Article Imaginary Records please. Thanks guys. olowe2011 (talk) 02:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

National albums/music charts[edit]

Proposal to rename, where appropriate, national music charts articles to territory and format rather than official name, so Swedish music charts rather than Sverigetopplistan, etc. Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Charts#National Albums/Music Charts. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:44, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

RfC Taio Cruz[edit]

You are invited to visit Talk:Taio Cruz to join the discussion regarding if what sources are reliable to determine alternative names for this artist. Are liner notes reliable sources? Are birth certificates reliable sources? // Liftarn (talk) 09:23, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Federazione Industria Musicale Italiana / Hit Parade Italia[edit]

Hello,

I would like to know what thinking about the source Hit Parade Italia. Because it's used for songs like the Good Article "Into the Groove" or "Hungry Like the Wolf" inside the charts with the name of FIMI. But the Federazione Industria Musicale Italiana was born in 1992. So how how FIMI could rank in 1982 and 1985 ? What's more, according to the website :

"In Italia, la prima classifica di vendita settimanale risale al 1959 e fu pubblicata dall'ormai scomparsa rivista "Il Musichiere". Da allora, negli anni, si sono succedute diverse classifiche, più o meno autorevoli ed affidabili. Le nostre classifiche sono ottenute rielaborando tutti i dati disponibili dalle pubblicazioni dell'epoca e sono in continuo affinamento man mano che recuperiamo i relativi dati, depurandoli di errori ed incongruenze." [1]

"In Italy, the first of the weekly bestseller list dates back to 1959 and was published by the now disappeared magazine "The Musichiere". Since then, over the years, there have been several classifications, more or less authoritative and reliable. Our rankings are obtained by rearranging all available data from the publications of the time and are in constant refinement as we recover its data, trying to remove errors and inconsistencies."

And:

"Il terzo limite è dovuto alla non completezza dei dati in nostro possesso. Ma su questo punto tu che stai leggendo queste note puoi fornire un contributo notevolissimo, aggiungendo i dati in tuo possesso a quelli già presenti nel sito." [2]

"The third limitation is due to the incompleteness of the data in our possession. But on this point you who are reading these notes you can provide a remarkable contribution, adding the data in your possession to those already on the site."

Thereby, Hit Parade Italia sounds not very reliable.

Should we don't use it? Greetings from French Wikipedia --TaupeGun (talk) 01:32, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

@TaupeGun: Exactly, HPI has never had any kind of “official” status and should never have been used. In German Wikipedia We have very exact rules about Italian chart data (here), maybe that helps. When I come across such data here on English WP, I usually just delete it. Regards, XanonymusX (talk) 13:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Is it common to name non musical people on pages Brockhampton (band)[edit]

So this page was in my watch list due to vandalism, it is very hard to confirm who is in the band at times as their own website doesn't really list the members. But users want to list everyone so we see creative direction, webmaster, management, photography etc all listed on the article. I'm not sure what is normal process here to list members so any help would be appreciated. NZFC(talk) 23:51, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Notice from the Portals WikiProject[edit]

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  1. ^ Mehring, Franz, Karl Marx: The Story of His Life (Routledge, 2003) pg. 75
  2. ^ John Bellamy Foster. "Marx's Theory of Metabolic Rift: Classical Foundations for Environmental Sociology", American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 105, No. 2 (September 1999), pp. 366-405.
  3. ^ Allen Oakley, Marx's Critique of Political Economy: 1844 to 1860, Routledge, 1984, p. 51.