From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search
SNFU vocalist Ken Chinn at the Starlite Room, Edmonton, Alberta
SNFU vocalist Ken Chinn at the Starlite Room, Edmonton, Alberta
Background information
Also known as
  • Society's No Fucking Use
  • Society's NFU
  • asSNFU
OriginEdmonton, Alberta, Canada
Years active
  • 1981 (1981)–1989 (1989)
  • 1991 (1991)–2005 (2005)
  • 2007 (2007)–2018 (2018)
Associated acts
Past members

SNFU was a Canadian hardcore punk band that formed in 1981 in Edmonton, relocated to Vancouver in 1992, and became inactive in 2018.[1] The band released eight full-length studio albums, two live records, and one compilation, and was a formative influence on the skate punk subgenre. Rankings of the best Canadian music have included their work.[2][3]

Credited as Mr. Chi Pig, eccentric vocalist and artist Ken Chinn fronted the group, while founding twin brothers Brent and Marc Belke provided dual guitar work. With founding drummer Evan C. Jones and early bassist Jimmy Schmitz, SNFU built an audience across North America through energetic live performances and a dynamic melodic hardcore punk sound. Their 1985 debut album ...And No One Else Wanted to Play has remained influential in underground circuits.[4] They grew in popularity following two further studio albums, the experimental If You Swear, You'll Catch No Fish (1986) with bassist Dave Bacon and drummer Jon Card and the aggressive Better Than a Stick in the Eye (1988) with bassist Curtis Creager and drummer Ted Simm. The group disbanded in 1989 due to internal tensions.

Beginning with what they intended to be a one-off reunion tour, SNFU reformed in 1991 with a new incarnation that had greater success. After some shifts, drummer Dave Rees and bassist Rob Johnson ultimately completed their most lasting lineup. They signed with the prominent indie label Epitaph Records, with which they released the albums Something Green and Leafy This Way Comes (1993), The One Voted Most Likely to Succeed (1995), and FYULABA (1996). These records achieved six-digit record sales[5] as the band toured in support of popular groups like Green Day and Bad Religion, but SNFU did not attain commercial success.

The group became independent in 1997 after their contract with Epitaph expired, and Brent Belke and Rees departed the following year. Following Johnson's 2001 departure and an ensuing two-year hiatus, they self-released the critically praised In the Meantime and In Between Time album in 2004 with bassist Matt Warhurst and guest drummer Trevor MacGregor. The band again disbanded in 2005, however, with Marc Belke permanently departing.

Chinn and former member Ken Fleming reformed SNFU in 2007. A later version of this incarnation, also including Card, guitarist Sean Colig, and bassist Kerry Cyr, released the album Never Trouble Trouble Until Trouble Troubles You in 2013. Beginning the following year, Chinn and Bacon led lineups that included guitarists Randy Steffes and Kurt Robertson and several drummers. The band announced a health-related hiatus in March 2018,[1] and Chinn died on July 16, 2020.[6] In total, 31 musicians played in the group as members or guests, with only Chinn remaining constant.


Early years, ...And No One Else Wanted to Play (1981–1985)[edit]

Ken Chinn met twin brothers Brent and Marc Belke in Edmonton in the late 1970s. The three were teenagers who shared interests in the skateboarding subculture and burgeoning punk rock movement.[4] In 1981, they formed the punk band Live Sex Shows with drummer Ed Dobek and bassist Phil Larson.[4] The band broke up later that year after a few gigs.

Chinn and the Belkes began a new group, Society's No Fucking Use, shortened to Society's NFU.[7] Bassist Warren Bidlock and drummer Evan C. Jones completed the initial lineup. After a few months of gigging, Bidlock departed due to stage fright.[8] The group recorded a two-song demo cassette, "Life of a Bag Lady", with guest bassist Scott Juskiw.[8]

Jimmy Schmitz replaced Bidlock late in 1982, and the group adopted the SNFU moniker. Two studio tracks on the It Came From Inner Space compilation LP on Rubber Records followed early in 1983 (songs re-released in 1990 on the Real Men Don't Watch Quincy bootleg 7").[8] SNFU gradually built an audience throughout North America on the strength of their aggressive live set, including shows played in support of touring acts such as Youth Brigade, the Dead Kennedys, and GBH,[9] and their track "Victims of the Womanizer" on the Something to Believe In compilation LP released on the US label BYO Records.

SNFU recorded their debut album, ...And No One Else Wanted to Play, in Los Angeles late in 1984, and BYO released the record the following year. The album made an impact in the underground punk scene, with noted artist Pushead writing in Maximumrocknroll that the band's "[r]igorous energy push[es] the limits of power with knocking flurry and extreme excitement."[10] Pushead concluded that the album was "a scorcher."[10]

If You Swear, You'll Catch No Fish and Better Than a Stick in the Eye (1985–1989)[edit]

Jones left the band due to exhaustion in mid 1985, and Schmitz departed in May.[11] Dave Bacon joined as bassist, while Jon Card (previously of Personality Crisis, and later of D.O.A and the Subhumans) moved to Edmonton and joined as drummer. With the new lineup, the group toured North America. They recorded If You Swear, You'll Catch No Fish, their second and comparatively experimental album,[12] in 1986 and released it on BYO. Card left the band after the album's completion.[13] With drummer Ted Simm, SNFU self-released the She's Not on the Menu 7" EP, which also included the "Life of a Bag Lady" recordings from 1982. Bacon departed in early 1987 due to musical differences and health concerns.[14] Curtis Creager (of Urban Holiday), a former roommate of Chinn and Marc Belke, replaced Bacon on bass.

The band enjoyed steadily increasing popularity. In 1987, Flipside fanzine voted them Best Live Band, beating the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Fugazi. Metallica included photos of lead singer James Hetfield wearing SNFU's iconic 'zombie' T-shirt in their The $5.98 E.P. - Garage Days Re-Revisited.[15] SNFU toured alongside Voivod and the Dayglo Abortions, and signed to the larger Cargo Records imprint.[16] Cecil English produced their third record, Better Than a Stick in the Eye, issued in 1988. The album remains influential among hardcore punk audiences.[17][18] The group's touring in support of the album included their first trip to Europe.

Due to internal tensions and musical differences, they disbanded in late 1989.[4][19] Simm returned to Winnipeg, while the Belkes and Creager formed the melodic rock band the Wheat Chiefs. Though Creager would soon depart, the Belkes kept the Wheat Chiefs active until 1998. Chinn moved to Vancouver and led the short-lived bands The Wongs and Little Joe. During this time, Chinn also became open about his homosexuality, and thereafter was a prominent advocate for queer identity in the punk rock community.[4][20]

Reformation, Epitaph years (1991–1998)[edit]

In 1991, SNFU released The Last of the Big Time Suspenders, an album of live material, demos, and studio outtakes, to satisfy their contract with Cargo.[4] The band reformed around the Belkes, Chinn, Creager, and Card, initially planning only a supporting promotional tour.[4][21] The tour was successful, however, and after several months of consideration, they decided to reactivate the band.[4]

The Belkes joined Chinn, Card, and new bassist Ken Fleming (formerly of the Winnipeg-based skate punk band The Unwanted) in Vancouver in June 1992. With Card suffering from substance abuse problems,[22] drummer Dave Rees joined in October. Rees had played in the Wheat Chiefs and former SNFU tour mates Broken Smile. This lineup completed an extensive European tour. The members dismissed Fleming late that year due to personality conflicts;[23] Wheat Chiefs bassist Rob Johnson joined thereafter.

In 1993, the band signed a three-record deal with Epitaph Records, an independent punk rock label on the cusp of mainstream success through releases from groups like The Offspring and Rancid. SNFU entered a period of heavy activity. They released two demo tracks for their next album as the small-run "Beautiful, Unlike You and I" EP on the Hom Wreckerds Music imprint. The album, Something Green and Leafy This Way Comes, appeared via Epitaph in 1993. This era found them playing increasingly melodic music, influenced by new directions in the third-wave punk sound that they themselves had helped to develop.[4] They shared touring bills with Green Day and Bad Religion[24] and received opening support from Korn and Tool.[4]

In 1995, the band released their fifth studio album, The One Voted Most Likely to Succeed. They hoped that the record would capitalize on the crossover success of other recent third-wave punk bands, but it did not chart.[25] Nonetheless, critics acknowledge the record as a "classic of '90s punk"[26] in which the veteran musicians "handle the record's more difficult material with grace and power."[27] The band completed and released the follow-up album FYULABA in 1996, which Dave Ogilvie produced. The album received mixed reviews.[28][29]

Epitaph did not renew the band's contract after its expiration late in 1997.[4] As a stopgap between studio albums, the band issued Let's Get It Right the First Time, a faux-live album[30] co-released by Megaforce Records and the band's own Rake Records. In March 1998, Rees and Brent Belke both departed and pursued careers in film and television.

As four-piece, In the Meantime and In-Between Time (1998–2005)[edit]

Despite industry frustrations and the loss of members, Chinn, Johnson, and Marc Belke opted to continue. They hired drummer Sean Stubbs (of Numb, Jakalope, and Bif Naked's band) to complete their first four-piece lineup. They continued to tour and began sporadic work on a new record, which would ultimately take six years. Stubbs was replaced by Chris Thompson (known as Corporal Ninny) in 1999. They released The Ping Pong EP, comprising five outtakes from the FYULABA sessions, in 2000 via the Alternative Tentacles label. The band also recorded studio sessions with guest drummer Trevor MacGregor (of Treble Charger), which would later appear on their seventh studio album.

In June 2001, Johnson left the band after a nine-year tenure.[31] Matt Warhurst (of Ocean 3 and Jakalope) replaced him for a single gig, until Thompson departed and the band began a hiatus that would ultimately last two years.[31] During the hiatus, Belke first led the band Based On a True Story, also with Warhurst, before relocating to Toronto.[4] Chinn formed Slaveco. with Warhurst and several musicians from Ocean 3 and Based On a True Story.

SNFU resumed in May 2003 with Marc Belke, Chinn, MacGregor, Warhurst, and producer Pete Wonsiak completing the tracking for the new record. Rake Records released the album, In the Meantime and In Between Time, the following year. It was heralded as a return to form for the band, with some critics ranking it among their finest work.[32][33] The album's song "Cockatoo Quill" ranked among the top 20 most beloved Canadian songs in a 2017 poll by CBC Music.[3] Shane Smith (of Ocean 3, Based On a True Story, and Slaveco.) joined the group for touring in support of the album.

In August 2005, the group again disbanded, due to frustrations with the music industry and internal tensions. Belke began working in radio, hosting his own show.[34] Chinn's severe health problems escalated, and he became homeless for a time before entering into assisted living.[4][35]

Second reformation, Never Trouble Trouble Until Trouble Troubles You (2007–2013)[edit]

Veteran drummer Jon Card served three stints with the band.

In July 2007, Chinn and Fleming planned to play a set of SNFU songs as "asSNFU" at SNFU's 25th anniversary party. With Fleming playing guitar, they recruited bassist Bryan McCallum (of Karen Foster) and drummer Chad Mareels (of Fleming's former group Dog Eat Dogma) to complete the band. asSNFU played a small handful of concerts thereafter before dropping the "as" prefix and billing themselves as simply "SNFU." The continuation of the band in the absence of Belke caused minor controversy;[4][36][37] but Chinn stated, "As far as I’m concerned it’s SNFU. The band has changed all throughout the years, and this is just another change. [...] Those songs are my life. I’ll fucking play them ‘til I die."[38] In 2008, Denis Nowoselski replaced McCallum, while Shane Smith later returned to replace Mareels. The group embarked on extensive Canadian and European tours, their heaviest activity since the Epitaph years.

Open Your Mouth and Say... Mr. Chi Pig, a documentary film about Chinn, debuted in March 2010. Produced by the Canadian company Prairie Coast Films and directed by Sean Patrick Shaul, the film focused on Chinn's life, including his drug abuse and schizophrenia.[4][39] It featured interviews with Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys, Brendan Canning of Broken Social Scene, Corb Lund of the Corb Lund and the Hurtin' Albertans and The Smalls, and Joey Keithley of D.O.A.[4] In April, Jon Card joined the band for a third time,[40] replacing Smith. Shortly thereafter, the band became a five-piece for the first time in 12 years with the addition of guitarist and harmony vocalist Sean Colig (of Minority, Savannah, and SideSixtySeven).

Chinn's severe case of pneumonia led to the cancelation of many 2011 tour dates.[41] The group nonetheless remained active, composing its first batch of new material since reforming.[42] Punk historian and author Chris Walter released an official biography of the band, What No One Else Wanted to Say, via GFY Press. Bassist Kerry Cyr (of SideSixtySeven) replaced Nowoselski at the conclusion of their 2012 tour. The cover song "I Wanna Be an East Indian" appeared under the SNFU moniker on Cruzar Media's Dayglo Abortions tribute album, but the track featured only Chinn and unrelated backing musicians.[43]

Cruzar Media announced a September release for their eighth studio album, Never Trouble Trouble Until Trouble Troubles You, but delays followed. The band embarked upon its first tour of Japan and a subsequent Canadian tour, with guest drummer Junior Kittlitz replacing the ailing Card.[44][45] Ultimately released in November, the new record was their first release in nine years, and their first and only album without founding member Marc Belke. It received mixed reviews from critics, some of whom praised the new lineup's successful approximation of the group's previous work.[46][47] Others were critical of the album, questioning Chinn's ability to continue performing.[48] SNFU splintered late in 2013, as all members other than Chinn departed after the supporting tours.

Final lineups (2014–2018)[edit]

Between lineups, Cruzar issued "I Wanna Be an East Indian" as a one-track digital download single. Chinn and returning bassist Dave Bacon assembled a new incarnation of the band in February with guitarists Kurt Robertson (of The Real McKenzies) and Randy Steffes (a former sound engineer and road manager for SNFU, The Real McKenzies, and Green Day), and drummer Adrian White (of Strapping Young Lad and Front Line Assembly). Beginning in April, the band played in Europe, Canada, and made their first United States appearances since 2001. They returned to Europe in July with British drummer Jamie Oliver (of the U.K. Subs). Guest drummer Txutxo Krueger (of Total Chaos) also filled in for several dates.

They planned further Canadian touring for November, which would include the returns of Curtis Creager and Ted Simm, but ultimately canceled the tour. Their 2015 touring lineup again included Bacon and Oliver. On their Canadian dates they performed ...And No One Else Wanted to Play in its entirety to commemorate the record's 30th anniversary. They also performed in Australia and New Zealand for the first time since 1997. Basque drummer Batikão Est (of Estricalla) played with the group during its 2016 and 2017 tours of Europe and Canada, while Oliver remained with the group for a brief and aborted studio session in 2016. What would prove to be the final SNFU live performances occurred in February 2017 in Europe.

Marc Belke reworked two demo tracks from 2000 and released them as SNFU's "A Happy Number" single on Rake Records in November 2017. The songs were far more experimental than anything else in the band's catalog and featured heavy use of electronic musical elements. Writing for, reviewer Jefftommy called the "odd duck of a record" a "pretty little song by a hardcore band of yore" and recommended the record for the band's fans;[49] Razorcake critic Ty Stranglehold praised the "hauntingly strange little ditties with keyboards and a drum machine," as well as the band's experimentation.[50]

Hiatus, Chinn's death, and aftermath[edit]

The band planned 2018 touring dates, but canceled these due to illness and announced a hiatus.[1] During the hiatus, Steffes and later Bacon joined the Real McKenzies for touring. In June 2019, Artoffact Records released ...And Yet, Another Pair of Lost Suspenders, a live album recorded during the band's 1992 reunion tour at Les Foufounes Électriques in Montreal.

In November, Chinn revealed in an interview with BeatRoute journalist Sean Orr that he had been diagnosed with a serious medical condition that was projected soon to become fatal.[51] While ill, he recorded a solo 7" single with orchestral versions of "Hurt" (written by Nine Inch Nails and later covered by Johnny Cash) and SNFU's "Painful Reminder." Chinn died on July 16, 2020 at age 57.[6][52] SNFU released the acoustic track "Cement Mixer," Chinn's final recording, via YouTube shortly after his death.[53][54]

Marc Belke and Rake Records released the EP A Blessing but with It a Curse in March 2021. The EP included outtakes from the In The Meantime and In Between Time sessions and guest appearances from members of Propagandhi.[55] Original drummer Jones died the following April.

Band members[edit]



  1. ^ a b c "TSOL to replace 7 Seconds at PRB club show, SNFU out of the line up". March 30, 2018. Retrieved July 9, 2018.
  2. ^ "Chart Magazine Top 100 Greatest Canadian Albums of All Time". Rate Your Music. Retrieved March 10, 2012.
  3. ^ a b "Here are your 20 favourite Canadian songs". CBC Music. June 30, 2017. Retrieved September 16, 2017.
  4. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p Open Your Mouth and Say...Mr. Chi Pig, [1] Film, Dir: Sean Patrick Shaul, 2010.
  5. ^ Walter, Chris. Under the Kilt: The Real McKenzies Exposed. Vancouver: GFY Press, 2015, pg. 107
  6. ^ a b Garner, Ryan (July 17, 2020). "Edmonton-born SNFU frontman Ken Chinn (aka Mr. Chi Pig) dead at 57". Edmonton Journal. Retrieved July 17, 2020.
  7. ^ Walter, Chris. ...What No One Else Wanted to Say, second edition. Vancouver: GFY Press, 2014, pg. 21
  8. ^ a b c Walter 2014: 31
  9. ^ Walter 2014: 40
  10. ^ a b Pushead. Album review. Maximumrocknroll issue 23, March 1, 1985.
  11. ^ Walter 2014: 57
  12. ^ Walter 2014: 75
  13. ^ Walter 2014: 74
  14. ^ Walter 2014: 89
  15. ^ "SNFU's zombie shirt lives on". Edmonton Journal. May 3, 2008. Archived from the original on November 8, 2012. Retrieved March 10, 2012.
  16. ^ Walter 2014: 95
  17. ^ Jeffries, Vincent. "Better Than a Stick in the Eye - SNFU". AllMusic. Retrieved January 2, 2016.
  18. ^ "RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW: SNFU - ...And No One Else Wanted to Play". Noisey. December 2, 2014. Retrieved January 1, 2016.
  19. ^ Walter 2014: 99
  20. ^ Pruden, Jana G. (July 20, 2020). "Ferocious SNFU singer Chi Pig led the hardcore punk scene". The Globe and Mail. Retrieved July 23, 2020.
  21. ^ "MUSIC SNFU: Not Negative". The Los Angeles Times. December 21, 1991. Retrieved September 14, 2012.
  22. ^ Walter 2014: 132
  23. ^ Walter 2014: 134
  24. ^ Walter 2014: 163
  25. ^ Walter 2014: 137
  26. ^ "SNFU - The One Voted Most Likely to Succeed". June 11, 2015. Retrieved January 13, 2016.
  27. ^ Jeffries, Vincent. "The One Voted Most Likely to Succeed - SNFU". AllMusic. Retrieved January 2, 2016.
  28. ^ "CD Review: SNFU, FYULABA". Drop D Magazine. Retrieved January 2, 2016.
  29. ^ Jeffries, Vincent. "FYULABA - SNFU". AllMusic. Retrieved January 2, 2016.
  30. ^ Walter 2014: 177
  31. ^ a b Walter 2014: 211
  32. ^ Walter 2014: 210
  33. ^ "SNFU - In the Meantime and In Between Time". Hour Community. October 28, 2004. Retrieved January 2, 2016.
  34. ^ Walter 2014: 235
  35. ^ Walter 2014: 238
  36. ^ "Old punks never die". NOW Magazine. March 17–24, 2010. Retrieved March 10, 2012.
  37. ^ Walter 2014: 240
  38. ^ "SNFU". Vue Weekly. April 30, 2008. Archived from the original on July 28, 2012. Retrieved March 12, 2012.
  39. ^ "Razorcake punk music video reviews". Razorcake. November 24, 2009. Retrieved March 10, 2012.
  40. ^ "Jon Card rejoins SNFU". Riot Fest. April 7, 2010. Archived from the original on July 20, 2011. Retrieved March 10, 2012.
  41. ^ Walter 2014: 257
  42. ^ "SNFU is back and ready to record". Whistler Question. May 19, 2010. Archived from the original on May 25, 2010. Retrieved March 10, 2012.
  43. ^ Walter 2014: 256
  44. ^ "SNFU's comeback tour blows through Shibuya". Tokyo Weekender. September 30, 2013. Retrieved October 18, 2013.
  45. ^ Walter 2014: 265
  46. ^ Walter 2014: 266
  47. ^ "SNFU - Never Trouble Trouble Until Trouble Troubles You". January 8, 2015. Retrieved January 13, 2016.
  48. ^ "Never Trouble Trouble Until Trouble Troubles You - Vue Weekly". Vue Weekly. October 10, 2013. Retrieved December 30, 2015.
  49. ^ ""SNFU: A Happy Number"". January 2, 2018. Retrieved August 21, 2020.
  50. ^ Stranglehold, Ty (January 31, 2018). ""SNFU: A Happy Number"". Razorcake. Retrieved August 21, 2020.
  51. ^ Orr, Sean (November 11, 2019). "SNFU Frontman Mr. Chi Pig On Life, Love And Drawing Himself To Death". BeatRoute. Retrieved December 2, 2019.
  52. ^ Alexander, Phil (July 17, 2020). "SNFU's Chi Pig: 1962-2020". Kerrang!. Retrieved July 17, 2020.
  53. ^ Bloom, Madison (July 20, 2020). "Ken Chinn, SNFU Frontman Known as Mr. Chi Pig, Dead at 57". Pitchfork. Retrieved July 25, 2020.
  54. ^ Sacher, Andrew (July 20, 2020). "SNFU share posthumous final song by late frontman Chi-Pig/". BrooklynVegan. Retrieved July 25, 2020.
  55. ^ Slingerland, Calum (February 25, 2021). "SNFU Tease New EP 'A Blessing but with It a Curse'". Exclaim!. Retrieved February 27, 2021.