Some Things Never Change

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For the Tim McGraw song, see Some Things Never Change (song).
Some Things Never Change
Supertramp - Some Things Never Change.jpg
Studio album by Supertramp
Released 24 March 1997
Recorded 1996–97
Genre Progressive rock, blues rock
Length 65:36
Label Chrysalis
Oxygen (US/Canada)
Producer Jack Douglas, Fred Mandel
Supertramp chronology
The Very Best of Supertramp 2
Some Things Never Change
It Was the Best of Times

Some Things Never Change is the tenth album by the English rock band Supertramp, released in 1997. It represented a deliberate return to the band's earlier sound (before Free as a Bird), using more organic recording techniques than on their previous studio album.[1] John Helliwell recounted that "we recorded the album in a way that Supertramp never had and that was by all going into the studio together and doing it as a much more live thing."[2]

The album features the single "You Win, I Lose", which was a minor hit in Germany and also received considerable airplay in Canada.[3]

The song "Live to Love You" features both the 'tackled' sound from the Coleco Electronic Quarterback handheld electronic game, as well as the Trouble "Pop-o-matic bubble" sounds from their 1979 hit "The Logical Song".

Cover art[edit]

Rick Davies explained the concept behind the album cover: "It's something to tie in with the title. In England people have tea at four o'clock and it doesn't matter where they are or what sort of social plane they're on, they will have that tea."[1]


Professional ratings
Review scores
Source Rating
Allmusic 2/5 stars[4]

Allmusic commented that the album retains the same style and strong instrumental interplay from the band's glory years, but lacks the "ingratiatingly catchy melodies" of that era, making it of strong interest to the band's fans but much less to casual listeners.[4]

Track listing[edit]

All songs written by Rick Davies, except where noted.
Lead vocals by Rick Davies, except where noted.

  1. "It's a Hard World" – 9:46
  2. "You Win, I Lose" – 4:31
  3. "Get Your Act Together" – 4:49
  4. "Live to Love You" – 5:18
  5. "Some Things Never Change" – 6:26
  6. "Listen to Me Please" – 4:46
    • Lead vocals: Rick Davies and Mark Hart
  7. "Sooner or Later" (Davies, Hart) – 6:50
    • Lead vocals: Mark Hart
  8. "Help Me Down That Road" – 4:36
  9. "And the Light" – 4:40
    • Drums: Tom Walsh
  10. "Give Me a Chance" (Davies, Hart) – 4:24†
    • Lead vocals: Mark Hart
  11. "C'est What?" – 8:17
  12. "Where There's a Will" – 5:36

† Hidden track not listed on the track listing on the album's jewel case or sleeve notes.


Additional personnel

  • Bob Danziger – Kalimbas
  • Karen Lawrence – background vocals
  • Kim Nail – background vocals
  • Fred Mandel - guitars on "And The Light" (uncredited as a musician on the cover)


  • Producers: Jack Douglas, Fred Mandel
  • Executive producer: Rick Davies
  • Engineers: Ian Gardiner, Jay Messina
  • Assistant engineers: Ian Gardiner, Mike Scotella
  • Mixing assistant: Roy Clark, Brian Hargrove
  • Mastering: Bob Ludwig
  • Creative director: Richard Frankel
  • Cover art: Dimo Safari
  • Portraits: Dennis Keeley


Certifications and sales[edit]

Region Certification Certified units/Sales
France (SNEP)[18] 2× Gold 268,800[19]
Germany (BVMI)[20] Gold 250,000^
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[21] Gold 50,000^
Switzerland (IFPI Switzerland)[22] Platinum 50,000^

*sales figures based on certification alone
^shipments figures based on certification alone


Year Single Chart Position
1997 "You Win, I Lose" German Singles Chart[23] 63


  1. ^ a b Bollenberg, John "Bobo" (26 June 2000). Interview with Rick Davies, John Helliwell, Jack Douglass, and Georges Ohayon,
  2. ^ Overall, Rick (22 July 1997). Summer Tramp, Jam! Music.
  3. ^ Stevenson, Jane (25 July 1997). Supertramp Reunion Was Logical Thing to Do, Jam! Music.
  4. ^ a b Some Things Never Change at AllMusic
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  6. ^ " Supertramp – Some Things Never Change" (ASP). Hung Medien (in French). Ultratop. Retrieved 1 May 2013. 
  7. ^ " Supertramp – Some Things Never Change" (ASP). Hung Medien (in Dutch). MegaCharts. Retrieved 1 June 2013. 
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  14. ^ "Supertramp > Artists > Official Charts". UK Albums Chart. Retrieved 1 May 2013. 
  15. ^ "Rapports annuels 1997". Ultratop (in French). Hung Medien. Retrieved 1 May 2013. 
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  17. ^ " - Schweizer Jahreshitparade 1997" (ASP). Swiss Music Charts (in Swedish). Hung Medien. Retrieved 1 May 2013. 
  18. ^ "French album certifications – Supertramp – Some Things Never Change" (in French). InfoDisc. Retrieved 1 June 2012.  Select SUPERTRAMP and click OK
  19. ^ "Les Albums Double Or". (in French). SNEP. Retrieved 31 August 2012. 
  20. ^ "Gold-/Platin-Datenbank (Supertramp; 'Some Things Never Change')" (in German). Bundesverband Musikindustrie. Retrieved 1 June 2012. 
  21. ^ "Solo Exitos 1959–2002 Ano A Ano: Certificados > 1995–1999". Iberautor Promociones Culturales. ISBN 84-8048-639-2. 
  22. ^ "The Official Swiss Charts and Music Community: Awards (Supertramp; 'Some Things Never Change')". IFPI Switzerland. Hung Medien. Retrieved 1 June 2012. 
  23. ^ "Chartverfolgung / Supertramp / Single". Music Line (in German). Germany: Media Control Charts. Retrieved 26 October 2011.