South London derby

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South London derby
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Millwall and Charlton Athletic pay tribute to Graham Taylor at The Valley in January, 2017.
Other names South East London derby
Locale South London, England
Teams Charlton Athletic, Crystal Palace, Millwall, AFC Wimbledon
First meeting Millwall 0–3 Crystal Palace[a]
(PFA Charity Fund, 31 October 1910)
Latest meeting AFC Wimbledon 1–1 Charlton Athletic
(League One, 11 February 2017)
Statistics
Meetings total 306[b]
Most wins Millwall (93)
Crystal Palace (79)
Charlton Athletic (44)
AFC Wimbledon (1)
Largest victory Millwall 6–0 Charlton Athletic
(Second Division, 3 January 1931)

South London derby is the name given to a football derby contested by any two of Charlton Athletic, Crystal Palace, Millwall and AFC Wimbledon, the four Football League clubs based in South London, England.[1] It is sometimes more specifically called the South East London derby when played between Charlton and Millwall.[2] The close geographical proximity of the teams contributes significantly to the rivalry.[1] Charlton Athletic and Millwall are located in South East London, with Millwall's The Den and Charlton's The Valley being less than four miles apart. Crystal Palace are based further south in the suburb of South Norwood, their stadium Selhurst Park still being only six miles from The Den and eight from The Valley.[3] AFC Wimbledon play at Kingsmeadow, which is eight miles west of Selhurst Park, 11 from The Den and 15 from The Valley.[3]

The fixture between the teams has been contested over 300 times and the rivalry dates back to 1906, when Crystal Palace and Millwall Athletic first met in the Southern League. Often competing in the same division, the two teams have contested the most derby games, over 130. Charlton entered the Football League in 1921, competing at the same level as their counterparts for the first time. Wimbledon became a Football League club in 1977 and contested their first derby in 1980. In 2003 Wimbledon were relocated to Milton Keynes and reformed as Milton Keynes Dons. A new team founded by supporters against the move in 2002, AFC Wimbledon, won a quick succession of non-League promotions to gain Football League status. AFC Wimbledon played their first derby in 2009, a cup game against Millwall.

According to a survey conducted in 2012, Charlton fans regard Crystal Palace as their main rival, with Millwall ranking second. Palace fans regard Brighton & Hove Albion to be their main rival, with Millwall placing second and Charlton third. Millwall's main rival is West Ham United, with Palace placing second and Charlton as third. AFC Wimbledon fans regard the Milton Keynes Dons as their biggest rival, with Palace as their second biggest (even though they've never played them competitively.)[4] As of the 2017–18 season, Crystal Palace play in the Premier League, Millwall play in the The Championship and Charlton and AFC Wimbledon play in League One.

History[edit]

Early rivalries[edit]

Millwall were founded in 1885,[5] some 20 years before Charlton Athletic and Crystal Palace, who were both founded in 1905.[6][7] Soon after Crystal Palace were formed, they joined the Southern Football League, which Millwall were founding members of. The two teams played against each other for ten seasons in this league.[5] The first contested competitive game between the sides was played on 17 November 1906, with Palace winning 3–0[5] although the fixture was not yet a South London derby — Millwall were based in East London until 1910. Up until that point the most successful team based in South London was Woolwich Arsenal, who were the first Southern member elected to the Football League in 1893.

Charlton Athletic's early years were somewhat hindered by the presence of Woolwich Arsenal, who were the closest team in locality and were well supported. Charlton spent the first years of their history playing in non-professional leagues and did not play either Palace or Millwall.[6] Eventually, Woolwich Arsenal moved to North London, losing the 'Woolwich' from their name, in 1913.[8] The same year Charlton adopted senior status. They became a professional team in 1920, joining the Southern League.[6] Both Millwall and Crystal Palace joined the Football League in the 1920–21 season,[5][7] playing in the Third Division, while Charlton Athletic joined the year after for the 1921–22 season,[6] finally competing at the same level as both their South London neighbours. Wimbledon became a Football League club five decades later in the 1977–78 season, playing their first South London derby against Millwall in 1980.

All in the same league[edit]

There have been two occasions where all four South London teams have played in the same league together. In the 1985–86 season, Charlton Athletic, Crystal Palace, Millwall and Wimbledon all competed in the Second Division. Charlton finished 2nd and Wimbledon 3rd, both being automatically promoted. Palace finished 5th and Millwall 9th. The 1989–90 season signifies the only time all four teams competed in the First Division together, the top tier of English football. Wimbledon finished the season 8th, Palace 15th and Charlton and Millwall were relegated, finishing 19th and 20th respectively.

Ground sharing[edit]

During World War II Millwall's ground The Den was severely damaged by a German bomb and a fire destroyed a stand a few days later. For a brief time the club was invited by their neighbours to play their games at The Valley and Selhurst Park. In 1984 Charlton went into administration. The club were forced to leave the The Valley just after the start of the 1985–86 season after its safety was criticised by league officials. The club began a groundshare with Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park, which lasted for six years until 1991. After another year groundsharing at West Ham United's Upton Park, Charlton moved back into The Valley in 1992. Wimbledon groundshared at Selhurst Park from 1991 until their relocation to Milton Keynes in 2003. The relocation prompted the formation of AFC Wimbledon at Kingsmeadow, which the team shares with semi-professional non-league side Kingstonian.

Notable matches[edit]

  • Crystal Palace 3–0 Millwall Athletic (17 November 1906)
The first meeting between any of the three original teams saw Palace, who were only formed a year prior, secure a comfortable victory over the visitors from East London. It was a Southern League match watched by 6,000 fans at the Crystal Palace National Sports Centre.[5][9]
  • Millwall 0–3 Crystal Palace (31 October 1910)
This was the first game between the teams since Millwall moved to South London (in 1910), making this the first true South London derby. 3,000 supporters watched a Palace victory at The Den in a London PFA Charity Fund game. The match against their new neighbours was Millwall's second game at their new ground.[10]
  • Millwall 0–1 Crystal Palace (15 January 1921)
First derby contested in The Football League. Palace won the Third Division (south) game with a second half goal in front of 20,000 fans. Palace also won the reverse fixture 3–2 which was held only a week later on 22 January 1921, to complete the first South London Football League double and continue their early dominance of Millwall.[11]
  • Millwall 2–0 Charlton Athletic (10 October 1921)
This London PFA Charity Fund fixture was the first contest between the two teams, which Millwall won 2–0 in front of 10,000 supporters at The Den.[12]
  • Millwall 0–1 Charlton Athletic (31 December 1921)
On New Year's Eve of 1921 the teams met for their first League match, which Charlton won 1–0 at The Den. This was Charlton's first season as a Football League club and they completed a rare double over Millwall, winning the return fixture at The Valley 2–1.[12]
  • Charlton Athletic 1–1 Crystal Palace (14 November 1925)
The first competitive game played between the teams took place in the Third Division (south), and ended with a 1–1 draw at The Valley.
  • Millwall 6–0 Charlton Athletic (3 January 1931)
This Second Division game between the sides remains the widest winning margin between any of the clubs. Millwall led 1–0 at half-time and scored five more times in the second half, with goals from Harold Wadsworth (2), Joe Readman (2), Andrew Swallow and Jack Landells.[13]
  • Millwall 2–2 Wimbledon (5 April 1980)
Wimbledon's first South London Derby was away at Millwall in the Third Division. The game ended in a draw in front of a crowd of 5,364. This was the Wombles third season as a Football League club, they finished bottom of the table and were relegated.[14]
  • Charlton Athletic 1–3 Crystal Palace (aggregate score, 12 & 15 May 1996)
Crystal Palace and Charlton met in the 1996 First Division play-off semi-final, after they finished third and sixth in the league respectively. Palace won the first leg at The Valley 2–1, and 1–0 in the second leg three days later. Palace went on to lose the play-off final to Leicester City 1–2 at Wembley.
  • Wimbledon 0–1 Millwall (24 March 2004)
A crowd of just 3,043 at the National Hockey Stadium in Milton Keynes saw Wimbledon's last game against South London opponents before they were renamed as MK Dons. A goal in the first half from Tim Cahill was enough to seal a win for Millwall against a Wimbledon side that finished bottom of the First Division and were relegated.[14] Technically, Wimbledon's last derby in South London was at Selhurst Park against Crystal Palace on 23 August 2003 (they moved in September 2003.) Wimbledon were groundsharing and were considered the home team. They lost the game 1–3.[14]
  • Charlton Athletic 2–2 Crystal Palace (15 May 2005)
Despite being ahead 2–1 with seven minutes left to play, Palace were unable to see out a win over their rivals. Charlton defender Jonathan Fortune scored an equaliser in the season's final game. Had Palace won they would have avoided relegation from the Premier League but instead became the first club to be relegated from the top-flight of English football four times.
  • Millwall 4–1 AFC Wimbledon (9 November 2009)
AFC Wimbledon's first competitive South London derby was a match against Millwall at The Den in the first round of the FA Cup. Kenny Jackett's League One side won 4–1 against the Conference National side.
  • Charlton Athletic 4–4 Millwall (19 December 2009)
The first meeting of the sides since 1996 ended in the highest scoring game between the teams. Millwall went 2–0 up through two Steve Morison goals but Charlton converted two penalties through Deon Burton. Millwall's Jimmy Abdou was sent off early in the second-half and The Lions went twice behind to the home team but Danny Schofield scored a last-minute equaliser.[15] Both teams wore special kits for the match in honour of murdered local teenagers and supporters Jimmy Mizen and Rob Knox. The logos of both clubs' shirt sponsors were replaced by the text, "Street violence ruins lives".[16]
  • Charlton Athletic 1–2 AFC Wimbledon (17 September 2016)
AFC Wimbledon's first win in a south London derby. Also their first derby in the Football League, with their two previous derbies against Millwall being losses in cup competitions. Wimbledon came from a goal down to win, with a Tyrone Barnett goal in the 85th minute.

Charlton Athletic v AFC Wimbledon[edit]

By competition[edit]

As of 11 February 2017.
Competition Played Charlton wins Drawn AFC Wimbledon wins Charlton goals AFC Wimbledon goals
Football League 2 0 1 1 2 3
Total 2 0 1 1 2 3

Full list of results[edit]

Score lists home team first.
Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
17 September 2016 1–2 AFC Wimbledon League One The Valley 11,927 First ever league meeting, first Wimbledon win in a South London derby.
11 February 2017 1–1 Draw League One Kingsmeadow 4,595

Charlton Athletic v Crystal Palace[edit]

By competition[edit]

As of 23 September 2015.
Competition Played Charlton wins Drawn Palace wins Charlton goals Palace goals
Football League 56 17 13 26 55 78
FA Cup 2 1 1 0 2 0
League Cup 6 0 1 5 5 13
Anglo-Italian Cup 1 1 0 0 4 1
Full Members Cup 1 0 0 1 0 2
Football League play-offs 2 0 0 2 1 3
Total[17][18] 68 19 15 34 67 97

This table only includes competitive first team games, excluding all pre-season games, friendlies, abandoned matches, testimonials and games played during World War I & II.

Last two results[edit]

Score lists home team first.
Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
2 February 2013 2–1 Palace Championship Selhurst Park 17,945 League double (6th for Crystal Palace)
23 September 2015 4–1 Palace League Cup Selhurst Park 16,576 Third round, Dwight Gayle scored a 27 minute hat-trick.

Charlton Athletic v Millwall[edit]

The teams first met in 1921, with Charlton winning at The Den 1–0. They won the return fixture at The Valley 2–1, completing the first league double over their local rivals.[19] Millwall hold the record for the longest unbeaten run between the teams at 14 games. Between 1922–1930, the Lions won eight and drew six.[19] Charlton's longest unbeaten run against Millwall is six games, between 1934–1968 they won three and drew three. The longest period the clubs have gone without playing each other is 31 years (between the 1935–36 and 1965–66 seasons), due to being in different leagues. Millwall also have a run of 12 games unbeaten between 1979–1992, where they won six and drew six. Millwall have completed the double over Charlton nine times (in 1923–24, 1924–25, 1931–32, 1932–33, 1968–69, 1970–71, 1971–72, 1988–89 and 1992–93) compared to Charlton's three (in 1921–22, 1934–35 and 1995–96). Millwall have the most wins in a row in the derby with five (twice). Charlton have won two games in a row (four times). The teams didn't play each other for 13 years, competing in different leagues between the 1996–97 and 2008–09 seasons. Millwall are currently on a ten-game unbeaten streak against Charlton, with five wins and five draws between 2009–2017.[19]

Millwall and Charlton playing at The Den in December, 2016.

By competition[edit]

As of 14 January 2017.
Competition Played Charlton wins Drawn Millwall wins Charlton goals Millwall goals
Football League 72 11 26 35 64 116
Anglo-Italian Cup 2 1 1 0 4 3
Sub-total 74 12 27 35 68 119
Kent FA Challenge Cup finals 18 9 5 4 36 31
London Challenge Cup 1 1 0 0 1 0
Football League Jubilee Fund 2 1 1 0 2 1
London PFA Charity Fund 5 2 1 2 7 5
Total[17][20] 100 25 34 41 114 156

This table only includes competitive first-team games, excluding all pre-season games, friendlies, abandoned matches, testimonials and games played during the First and Second World Wars.

Full list of results[edit]

Score lists home team first.
Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
31 December 1921 0–1 Charlton Third Division (South) The Den 25,000 First competitive game, first Charlton win.
14 January 1922 2–1 Charlton Third Division (South) The Valley 18,000 League double (1st for Charlton)
4 November 1922 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) The Den 25,000
11 November 1922 0–2 Millwall Third Division (South) The Valley 18,000 First Millwall win.
22 September 1923 0–1 Millwall Third Division (South) The Valley 15,000
29 September 1923 1–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 14,000 League double (1st for Millwall)
10 April 1925 0–2 Millwall Third Division (South) The Valley 25,000
13 April 1925 1–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 12,000 League double (2nd for Millwall)
3 October 1925 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) The Den 25,337
13 February 1926 1–4 Millwall Third Division (South) The Valley 22,000
25 September 1926 3–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 20,239
12 February 1927 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) The Valley 20,000
8 October 1927 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) The Valley 27,212
18 February 1928 5–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 25,498
5 October 1929 1–1 Draw Second Division The Den 32,218
8 February 1930 1–1 Draw Second Division The Valley 35,000 Highest attendance, Millwall 14 games unbeaten (longest streak)
6 September 1930 2–0 Charlton Second Division The Valley 22,000
3 January 1931 6–0 Millwall Second Division The Den 14,687 Largest winning margin in a South London derby.
10 October 1931 1–3 Millwall Second Division The Valley 25,000
20 February 1932 1–0 Millwall Second Division The Den 17,381 League double (3rd for Millwall)
12 November 1932 2–1 Millwall Second Division The Den 13,908
25 March 1933 1–4 Millwall Second Division The Valley 33,000 League double (4th for Millwall)
29 September 1934 3–1 Charlton Third Division (South) The Valley 25,725
9 February 1935 1–3 Charlton Third Division (South) The Den 29,263 Football League double (2nd for Charlton)
27 August 1966 0–0 Draw Second Division The Den 20,364 First game in 31 years, longest period without meeting.
31 December 1966 0–0 Draw Second Division The Valley 29,529
2 September 1967 0–0 Draw Second Division The Den 18,240
6 January 1968 1–0 Charlton Second Division The Valley 24,092 Charlton six games unbeaten, their longest streak.
10 August 1968 3–4 Millwall Second Division The Valley 27,504 First win at The Valley for 35 years.
1 March 1969 3–2 Millwall Second Division The Den 23,011 League double (5th for Millwall)
16 August 1969 1–1 Draw Second Division The Den 20,451
7 October 1969 2–2 Draw Second Division The Valley 21,718
5 September 1970 1–3 Millwall Second Division The Valley 15,867
27 March 1971 2–0 Millwall Second Division The Den 13,399 League double (6th for Millwall)
30 August 1971 2–1 Millwall Second Division The Den 18,588
25 April 1972 0–2 Millwall Second Division The Valley 26,582 Possee scores 8th goal against Charlton, League double (7th for Millwall)
27 December 1976 1–1 Draw Second Division The Den 20,914
8 April 1977 3–2 Charlton Second Division The Valley 16,481
24 September 1977 1–1 Draw Second Division The Den 13,309
28 February 1978 0–2 Millwall Second Division The Valley 15,671
28 October 1978 0–2 Charlton Second Division The Den 10,054 First win at The Den for 43 years.
10 March 1979 2–4 Millwall Second Division The Valley 9,908
6 September 1980 2–0 Millwall Third Division The Den 6,895 Lowest league attendance recorded.
17 March 1981 0–0 Draw Third Division The Valley 12,700
29 March 1986 2–2 Draw Second Division The Den 20,451
15 April 1986 3–3 Draw Second Division Selhurst Park 21,718 Charlton were groundsharing with Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park.
10 September 1988 0–3 Millwall First Division Selhurst Park 13,735 First meeting between the teams in the top flight.
2 January 1989 1–0 Millwall First Division The Den 17,025 League double (8th for Millwall)
22 August 1989 2–2 Draw First Division The Den 14,806
8 December 1989 1–1 Draw First Division Selhurst Park 11,017
22 September 1990 0–0 Draw Second Division Selhurst Park 10,970
10 April 1991 3–1 Millwall Second Division The Den 15,382 Sheringham scores a hat-trick, taking his tally to 5 goals in the derby.
26 February 1992 1–0 Millwall Second Division The Den 12,882 Millwall 12 games unbeaten (their second longest streak)
7 March 1992 1–0 Charlton Second Division Upton Park 8,177 Charlton were groundsharing with West Ham at Upton Park.
2 September 1992 1–2 Charlton Anglo-Italian Cup The Den 3,975 Lowest attendance recorded, first cup tie played between the sides.
18 October 1992 0–2 Millwall Division One Upton Park 7,527 First and only Football League win at Upton Park for Millwall.
25 April 1993 1–0 Millwall Division One The Den 10,159 Last derby at The Old Den, league double (9th for Millwall).
1 September 1993 2–2 Draw Anglo-Italian Cup The Den 4,003 First game between the teams at The New Den.
11 September 1993 0–0 Draw Division One The Valley 8,413 First derby at The Valley since Charlton returned home.
15 March 1994 2–1 Millwall Division One The Den 13,320
1 January 1995 1–1 Draw Division One The Valley 10,655
8 April 1995 3–1 Millwall Division One The Den 9,506
5 December 1995 0–2 Charlton Division One The Den 11,350
9 March 1996 2–0 Charlton Division One The Valley 12,204 League double (3rd for Charlton)
19 December 2009 4–4 Draw League One The Valley 19,105 Highest ever scoring game in the fixture, first game in 13 years.
13 March 2010 4–0 Millwall League One The Den 17,632
1 December 2012 0–0 Draw Championship The Den 18,013
16 March 2013 0–2 Millwall Championship The Valley 18,514
13 September 2013 0–1 Millwall Championship The Valley 15,917
15 March 2014 0–0 Draw Championship The Den 16,102
22 November 2014 0–0 Draw Championship The Valley 16,102
8 April 2015 2–1 Millwall Championship The Den 15,917
21 December 2016 3–1 Millwall League One The Den 14,395 Morison scores his 5th and 6th goals against Charlton in the derby.
14 January 2017 0–0 Draw League One The Valley 15,315 Millwall 10 games unbeaten (their third longest streak)

Crystal Palace v Millwall[edit]

Millwall and Crystal Palace line-up at The Den on New Year's Day 2011.

The first meeting between the sides was in 1906 in the Southern League, when Millwall Athletic were still an East London side. Palace won the game 3–0 at the Crystal Palace National Sports Centre.[5] Millwall moved south of the river in 1910 and the first true South London derby between the teams was held on 31 October, 1910. It was a London PFA Charity Fund game, which Palace won 3–0 and was just Millwall's second game at their new ground, The Den.[10] The first derby contested in The Football League was on 15 January, 1921. Palace won the Third Division (south) game 1–0. They also won the reverse fixture which was held a week later; 3–2, to complete the first Football League double over their South London neighbours.[11] Palace have completed a Football League double over Millwall seven times (in 1920–21. 1949–50, 1963–64, 1968–69, 1977–78, 1963–64, 1986–87, 1989–90.) Millwall have completed a Football League double over Palace six times (in 1925–26, 1926–27, 1957–58, 1959–60, 2001–01, 2010–11.) Palace's longest unbeaten streak is seven games, they won six and drew one game against Millwall between 1986–1993. Millwall's longest unbeaten streak against Palace is 19 games, between 1950–1958 they won 11 and drew 8 games.

By competition[edit]

Millwall fans celebrate Theo Robinson's winner against Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park in the 2010–11 season.[21]
As of 30 April 2013.
Competition Played Palace wins Drawn Millwall wins Palace goals Millwall goals
Football League 86 26 26 34 106 126
FA Cup 10 2 4 4 11 16
Football League Trophy 1 0 0 1 0 3
Anglo-Italian Cup 1 1 0 0 3 0
Sub-total 98 29 30 39 120 145
Southern Football League 20 12 3 5 28 11
Western Football League 2 0 0 2 3 5
London Challenge Cup 1 1 0 0 4 3
London PFA Charity Fund 3 1 0 2 5 4
Kent FA Challenge Cup finals 1 0 1 0 1 1
Kent Senior Shield 5 1 2 2 7 4
Southern Floodlight Cup 2 1 1 0 4 3
Total[18][22][22][19] 132 45 37 50 172 176

Full list of results[edit]

Score lists home team first.
Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
15 January 1921 0–1 Palace Third Division (South) The Den 20,000 First Football League game between the sides.
22 January 1921 3–2 Palace Third Division (South) The Nest 18,000 League double (1st for Crystal Palace)
28 January 1922 0–0 Draw FA Cup The Nest 25,000 Second round.
1 February 1922 2–0 Millwall FA Cup The Den 35,800 Second round replay.
29 August 1925 1–2 Millwall Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 20,000 First South London derby held at Selhurst Park.
2 January 1926 1–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 18,126 League double (1st for Millwall)
18 December 1926 1–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 15,445
7 May 1927 1–6 Millwall Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 15,000 Biggest winning margin for Millwall, league double (2nd for Millwall)
15 October 1927 0–4 Millwall Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 25,000 Six wins in a row (longest streak in fixture)
25 February 1928 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) The Den 27,736 Second round.
26 January 1929 0–0 Draw FA Cup The Den 40,460 Fourth round, highest attendance in a South London derby.
30 January 1929 5–3 Palace FA Cup Selhurst Park 26,406 Highest-scoring game between the sides, Fourth round replay.
10 November 1934 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 11,000
23 March 1935 3–2 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 9,630
2 November 1935 5–0 Palace Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 20,000 Biggest winning margin for Crystal Palace.
18 April 1936 4–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 14,498
5 December 1936 3–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 19,063
14 April 1937 1–0 Palace Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 7,000
4 September 1937 2–2 Draw Third Division (South) The Den 25,894
15 January 1938 0–0 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 22,000
28 August 1948 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 30,500
1 January 1949 1–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 19,484
8 October 1949 2–3 Palace Third Division (South) The Den 30,005
25 February 1950 1–0 Palace Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 30,300 League double (2nd for Crystal Palace)
16 September 1950 1–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 29,768
25 November 1950 1–4 Millwall FA Cup Selhurst Park 14,817 First round.
20 January 1951 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 23,354
1 September 1951 3–1 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 22,386
29 December 1951 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 20,752
6 September 1952 0–0 Draw Third Division (South) The Den 25,886
17 January 1953 0–1 Millwall Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 24,924
5 September 1953 2–2 Draw Third Division (South) The Den 21,952
16 January 1954 2–3 Millwall Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 16,106
30 October 1954 5–2 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 19,385
19 March 1955 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 13,645
3 September 1955 1–1 Draw Third Division (South) The Den 16,454
31 December 1955 2–2 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 12,248
15 September 1956 2–2 Draw Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 16,112
5 January 1957 2–0 Millwall FA Cup The Den 26,790 Third round.
19 January 1957 3–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 16,145
28 August 1957 0–1 Millwall Third Division (South) Selhurst Park 22,680
2 September 1957 3–0 Millwall Third Division (South) The Den 19,770 League double (3rd for Millwall)
4 October 1958 2–1 Millwall Fourth Division The Den 19,190 Millwall 19 games unbeaten (longest streak).
21 February 1959 4–0 Palace Fourth Division Selhurst Park 15,365
28 October 1959 1–2 Millwall Fourth Division Selhurst Park 27,929
12 December 1959 1–0 Millwall Fourth Division The Den 17,136 League double (4th for Millwall)
31 March 1961 0–2 Millwall Fourth Division Selhurst Park 37,774 Highest ever attendance in the fourth tier of the Football League.[23]
3 April 1961 0–2 Palace Fourth Division The Den 15,503
26 December 1962 3–0 Palace Third Division Selhurst Park 20,411
1 April 1963 1–1 Draw Third Division The Den 21,586
12 October 1963 2–1 Palace Third Division The Den 25,056
22 February 1964 0–1 Palace Third Division Selhurst Park 19,239 League double (3rd for Crystal Palace)
15 October 1966 1–1 Draw Second Division The Den 28,644
25 March 1967 1–2 Millwall Second Division Selhurst Park 30,845
18 November 1967 2–2 Draw Second Division Selhurst Park 30,304
13 April 1968 5–1 Millwall Second Division The Den 14,782
23 November 1968 0–2 Palace Second Division The Den 27,913
19 March 1969 4–2 Palace Second Division Selhurst Park 32,516 League double (4th for Crystal Palace)
17 November 1973 1–1 Draw Second Division Selhurst Park 30,054
13 April 1974 3–2 Millwall Second Division The Den 20,176
13 December 1975 1–1 Draw FA Cup The Den 14,920 Second round.
16 December 1975 2–1 Palace FA Cup Selhurst Park 18,284 Second round replay
20 December 1975 2–1 Millwall Third Division The Den 9,989
30 March 1976 0–0 Draw Third Division Selhurst Park 38,075 Highest Football League attendance in the derby.
20 August 1977 0–3 Palace Second Division The Den 15,246
2 January 1978 1–0 Palace Second Division Selhurst Park 27,259 League double (5th for Crystal Palace)
16 September 1978 0–3 Palace Second Division The Den 11,653
20 January 1979 0–0 Draw Second Division Selhurst Park 23,142
21 August 1982 3–0 Millwall Football League Trophy The Den 4,844 Group match, Millwall went on to win the trophy.
5 January 1985 1–1 Draw FA Cup The Den 11,125 Third round.
23 January 1985 1–2 Millwall FA Cup Selhurst Park 10,735 Third round replay
21 September 1985 2–1 Palace Second Division Selhurst Park 8,713
22 April 1986 3–2 Millwall Second Division The Den 5,643 Lowest Football League attendance in the derby.
4 October 1986 2–1 Palace Second Division Selhurst Park 8,150
28 March 1987 0–1 Palace Second Division The Den 6,285 League double (6th for Crystal Palace)
10 October 1987 1–0 Palace Second Division Selhurst Park 10,678
12 March 1988 1–1 Draw Second Division The Den 12,815
21 October 1989 4–3 Palace First Division Selhurst Park 18,920 First game between the sides in the top tier.
31 March 1990 1–2 Palace First Division The Den 13,332 League double (7th for Crystal Palace)
14 September 1993 3–0 Palace Anglo-Italian Cup Selhurst Park 2,712 Lowest attendance, seven games unbeaten for Palace (longest streak)
1 January 1994 3–0 Millwall Division One The Den 16,779 First game at The New Den, first win for Millwall in 18 years.
9 April 1994 1–0 Palace Division One Selhurst Park 23,142
22 October 1995 1–2 Millwall Division One Selhurst Park 14,338 First win at Selhurst Park for 20 years (28 years in the league).
30 March 1996 1–4 Palace Division One The Den 13,214
8 September 2001 1–3 Millwall Division One Selhurst Park 21,641
26 December 2001 3–0 Millwall Division One The Den 16,630 League double (5th for Millwall)
7 December 2002 1–0 Palace Division One Selhurst Park 19,301
21 April 2003 3–2 Millwall Division One The Den 10,670
30 August 2003 1–1 Draw Division One The Den 14,425
26 December 2003 0–1 Millwall Division One Selhurst Park 19,737
3 December 2005 1–1 Draw Championship Selhurst Park 19,571
18 February 2006 1–1 Draw Championship The Den 12,296
16 October 2010 0–1 Millwall Championship Selhurst Park 16,693
1 January 2011 3–0 Millwall Championship The Den 16,170 Puncheon scored a hat-trick for Millwall, league double (6th for Millwall)
26 November 2011 0–0 Draw Championship Selhurst Park 15,150
31 December 2011 0–1 Palace Championship The Den 16,085 First win at The Den for 15 years.
20 October 2012 2–2 Draw Championship Selhurst Park 16,124
30 April 2013 0–0 Draw Championship The Den 12,745

Millwall v AFC Wimbledon[edit]

By competition[edit]

As of 2 January 2017.
Competition Played Millwall wins Drawn AFC Wimbledon wins Millwall goals AFC Wimbledon goals
Football League 2 0 2 0 2 2
FA Cup 1 1 0 0 4 1
League Cup 1 1 0 0 2 1
Total 4 2 2 0 8 4

Full list of results[edit]

Score lists home team first.
Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
9 November 2009 4–1 Millwall FA Cup The Den 9,453 First ever competitive meeting, First round.
6 August 2013 2–1 Millwall League Cup The Den 4,443 First round.
22 November 2016 0–0 Draw League One The Den 8,614 First ever league meeting.
2 January 2017 2–2 Draw League One Kingsmeadow 4,742

All-time results[edit]

As of 11 February 2017.
Team Played Wins Drawn Losses Goals for Goals against
Charlton Athletic 170 44 50 76 183 256
Crystal Palace 200 79 52 69 269 243
Millwall 236 93 73 70 340 290
AFC Wimbledon 6 1 3 2 7 10
Total[14][17][18][19] 306 109 89 109 796 796

Crossing the divides[edit]

Managers[edit]

Jimmy Seed, Alan Mullery, Iain Dowie, Ian Holloway and Alan Pardew have all permanently managed two of the three South London clubs. Seed was in charge of Charlton for 23 years from 1933 to 1956, leading them to one of the most successful periods of their history, with successive promotions to the top-flight and an FA Cup Final win in 1947. He was sacked in 1956 after a bad run of form and took over at Millwall in 1958. Seed's start at The Den was poor, with the team going nine matches without a win. The team finished in 23rd place in Division Three (south). The following year saw The Lions playing in the new Fourth Division in which they finished 9th. Seed resigned at the end of that season, but stayed with the club as a director until his death on 16 July 1966.

Alan Mullery was in charge of Charlton from 1981 to 1982 and left to take the helm at Crystal Palace, where he remained manager until 1984. Theo Foley was Charlton manager from 1970 to 1974 and was briefly in charge of Millwall as a caretaker manager in 1977. Steve Gritt, who was joint-manager at Charlton with Alan Curbishley from 1991 to 1995, was also caretaker at Millwall briefly in 2000. Lennie Lawrence was Charlton's manager from 1982 to 1991 and was assistant manager at Crystal Palace, before joining former manager Dougie Freedman at Bolton Wanderers.

Iain Dowie was in charge of Crystal Palace between 21 December 2003 and 22 May 2006, when he was allowed to resign from his post, apparently to return to northern England because his wife was homesick. However, eight days later Premier League club Charlton unveiled Dowie as their new manager. Simon Jordan, Palace's chairman, immediately issued Dowie with a writ, claiming that he had misled him about his reasons for leaving the club; Dowie, however, insisted this was not the case, and was publicly backed by Charlton chief executive Peter Varney, who branded the writ "a sad and pathetic publicity stunt", and chairman Richard Murray, who was adamant that his legal team could find no grounds for the writ to be upheld, and suggested that there may be more personal reasons behind the writ being issued. The case was heard in the High Court in the summer of 2007 where a judge ruled that Dowie had lied when negotiating his way out of his contract. His spell at Charlton was largely unsuccessful and they parted company on 13 November 2006, after just 15 games in charge.

Ian Holloway took charge of Crystal Palace in November 2012.[24] He guided them to promotion to the Premier League via the 2013 Football League play-offs, after beating Watford 1–0 with a penalty converted by Kevin Philips in extra time. On 23 October 2013, Holloway left the club by mutual consent after less than a year in charge.[25][26] He managed to gain only three points from their first eight games in the top flight.[27] On 6 January 2014, Holloway signed a two-and-a-half-year deal with Millwall, taking over from Steve Lomas.[28] On 6 January 2014 he signed two-and-a-half-year deal with Millwall, taking over from Steve Lomas.[28] He guided the club to Championship safety for the 2013–14 season as Millwall finished 19th, four points above the relegation places.[29] In the 2014–15 season, as Millwall dropped in the relegation places in The Championship, Holloway admitted that he had become an unpopular manager with the Millwall fans.[30] On 10 March 2015, Holloway was sacked, with the team second from bottom in the Championship and having lost five of their last six games.[31]

Players[edit]

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Players who have played for at least two of the four clubs are listed below. As of 18 August 2012 (the last game he played for Millwall), Darren Ward has played the most games for South London teams, with 317 appearances in total (232 for Millwall, 69 for Crystal Palace and 16 for Charlton). Peter Burridge played 114 games for Palace, 87 for Millwall and 44 for Charlton. He holds the record for most goals scored by a player for South London clubs, with 104 in 245 appearances.

Wimbledon and AFC Wimbledon[edit]

AFC Wimbledon and Millwall players met for the first time at The Den in 2009.

The 2003 relocation and 2004 renaming of Wimbledon as Milton Keynes Dons meant that a South London derby team was lost.[32] Wimbledon's last South London derby was on 24 March 2004 against Millwall, which they lost 0–1. Their record in all competitions against Charlton, Crystal Palace and Millwall is as follows.

Opponent Played Wins Draws Losses Goals for Goals against
Charlton Athletic 16 8 4 4 28 21
Crystal Palace 26 8 5 13 35 39
Millwall 22 9 8 5 34 27
Total[14] 64 25 17 22 97 87

Some Wimbledon supporters formed a new team, AFC Wimbledon,[33] in 2002, based at Kingsmeadow in Kingston upon Thames. The non-League club started in the Combined Counties League, and played their first competitive South London derby on 9 November 2009, losing 4–1 away at Millwall in an FA Cup first-round match.[34] Having worked their way up through the non-League with five promotions in nine seasons, AFC Wimbledon were promoted first into Football League Two for the 2011–12 season,[35] and then into Football League One for the 2016–17 season,[36] where they are competing in the same league as Charlton Athletic and Millwall.

See also[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ The first true South London derby was played on 31 October 1910, a 3–0 win for Palace at Millwall's new ground based in New Cross, The Den. The first ever meeting between the sides was on 17 November 1906, another 3–0 win for Palace. The Lions were still based in East London at that time, and did not move to South London until 1910.
  2. ^ 64 games played between 1980 and 2004 by now-dissolved club Wimbledon F.C. against Charlton, Crystal Palace and Millwall have not been included in this total. Wimbledon won 25, lost 22 and drew 17 games against their South London rivals. Games played by AFC Wimbledon are included in this total, since they became a Football League club in 2011.

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