Sub Sub

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Sub Sub
OriginHandforth, Cheshire, England
GenresHouse, EDM, alternative dance, Madchester
Years active1991–1996
LabelsRob's Records
Associated actsDoves, Melanie Williams, Black Rivers
Past membersJez Williams
Jimi Goodwin
Andy Williams

Sub Sub were an English dance act from Handforth, Cheshire composed of Jimi Goodwin and twin brothers Andy and Jez Williams.

The threesome met at school in 1985 and became regulars at The Haçienda while composing their own material together. They had an underground 12" single ("Space Face" in 1991) and moderate commercial success in the early 1990s on Rob Gretton's label Rob's Records, including the single "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (featuring guest vocalist Melanie Williams) which reached No. 3 on the UK Singles Chart.[1] The trio's only full-length album Full Fathom Five was released in September 1994.

After a fire destroyed their recording studio on Blossom Street in the Ancoats area of Manchester on the Williams twins' birthday in 1996, they started anew as the more indie-oriented act Doves in 1998. An unreleased collection of tracks meant to be featured on the band's second full-length album was issued in 1998 as Delta Tapes.



  1. "Coast"
  2. "Angel" (featuring Nina Henchion)
  3. "Valium Jazz"
  4. "Southern Trees" (featuring Gill Jackson)
  5. "Inside of This"
  6. "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (featuring Melanie Williams)
  7. "Flute Track"
  8. "Swamp"
  9. "Respect" (featuring Nina Henchion)
  10. "Past"
  1. "Crunch"
  2. "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (featuring Bernard Sumner)
  3. "Lost in Watts"
  4. "Jaggernath"
  5. "Firesuite"
  6. "Smoking Beagles" (featuring Tricky)
  7. "Clear Blue Water"
  8. "Heads Will Roll"
  9. "Past"

Singles and EPs[edit]

  • "Space Face" (Ten Records, January 1991)
  • "Space Face" (Todd Terry Remixes) (Ten Records, January 1991)
  • Coast EP (Rob's Records, ROB 7; June 1992)
  • "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (Rob's Records, ROB 9; March 1993)
  • "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (On Remixes) (Rob's Records, ROB 9R; March 1993)
  • "Respect" (Rob's Records, ROB 19; February 1994)
  • "Angel" (Rob's Records, ROB 29; August 1994)
  • "Southern Trees" (Rob's Records, ROB 39; January 1995)
  • "Smoking Beagles" (Rob's Records, ROB 51; December 1996)
  • "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (Rob's Records, ROB 53; August 1997)

Peak chart positions

Year Single Peak chart positions Album

1991 "Space Face" single only
1992 "Coast EP" Full Fathom Five
1993 "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (feat. Melanie Williams) 3 13 18 47 11
1994 "Respect" 49
"Angel" 88
1995 "Southern Trees"
1996 "Smoking Beagles" (with Tricky) Delta Tapes
1997 "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (with Bernard Sumner) 78
"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released.


  1. ^ Roberts, David (2006). British Hit Singles & Albums (19th ed.). London: Guinness World Records Limited. p. 538. ISBN 1-904994-10-5.
  2. ^ "Sub Sub - UK Chart". The Official Charts Company. Retrieved 15 October 2014.
  3. ^ "Sub Sub - Dutch chart". 15 October 2014.
  4. ^ "Sub Sub - Belgian Chart". Retrieved 15 October 2014.
  5. ^ "Sub Sub - Australian chart". Retrieved 15 October 2014.

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