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Now in a days all are considered as a business then it is a game or art or anything, therefore it is not bad if cricketers or businessman or concerned persons earning money from it. But sometime due to this some nuisance also enters in it like match fixing, dirty politics, provincialism, underworld, etc. At that time if we considered as National Proud then it will surely hurt us. So it is better to consider it as only a game. However if any cricketer is playing good and do some extraordinary then it is a proud for whole nation. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mayursharma55|Mayursharma55]] ([[User talk:Mayursharma55|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mayursharma55|contribs]]) 11:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
Now in a days all are considered as a business then it is a game or art or anything, therefore it is not bad if cricketers or businessman or concerned persons earning money from it. But sometime due to this some nuisance also enters in it like match fixing, dirty politics, provincialism, underworld, etc. At that time if we considered as National Proud then it will surely hurt us. So it is better to consider it as only a game. However if any cricketer is playing good and do some extraordinary then it is a proud for whole nation. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mayursharma55|Mayursharma55]] ([[User talk:Mayursharma55|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mayursharma55|contribs]]) 11:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Where's everybody gone?

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Test and ODI rankings

The rankings are totally wrong. Here's the current status :

ICC Test Championship

06 Dec 2009 Team Matches Points Rating India 32 3957 124 South Africa 30 3672 122 Australia 31 3600 116 Sri Lanka 31 3574 115 England 39 4102 105 Pakistan 17 1424 84 New Zealand 25 2001 80 West Indies 25 1910 76 Bangladesh 19 255 13 ICC ODI Championship

29 Nov 2009 Team Matches Points Rating Australia 39 5080 130 India 37 4522 122 South Africa 26 3085 119 New Zealand 25 2789 112 England 33 3606 109 Pakistan 28 3012 108 Sri Lanka 31 3298 106 West Indies 21 1589 76 Bangladesh 28 1548 55 Zimbabwe 32 823 26 Ireland 6 152 25 Kenya 14 28 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Himanil Raina (talkcontribs) 06:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I imagine that the rankings in the article are out of date. That's always likely to be a problem. The best solution might be simply to delete that columb of the table, as I'm not sure that current rankings are needed in an overview article like this one. JH (talk page) 10:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Jhall1. --Dweller (talk) 11:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Um Units?

Even as an American, I'm confused as to why this article uses yards and feet as the primary units. Cricket isn't even popular here. You guys can go ahead and switch it to meters? 72.220.125.86 (talk) 07:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Because those are the measurements given in the laws of the game. Plus we're still not completely metric in the UK! Andrew nixon (talk) 11:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
This is not entirely true. The copy of the laws on the Lord's website shows both metric and imperial units.[1] The imperial units obviously preceded metric units as the units of measurement in cricket, and I suppose that's why cricketers still tend to use them to measure the dimensions of the pitch and such (not to mention 22 is easier to remember than 20.12). Elostirion (talk) 18:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Regarding dismissals, I have moved "hit wicket" to the group of unusual methods of dismissal. Among sports books that offer wagering on live cricket matches,"hit wicket" is customarily offered at odds of over 200-1. Also (see www.cricinfo.com) "hit wicket" accounts for less than 1 out of every 500 outs in first class cricket.Mk5384 (talk) 13:07, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Name

In Devon dialect a cricket is a three-legged stool[2]. here is a description of a cricket-like game involving a milking stool. Could there be a connection, and can we put it in without breaching WP:SYNTH? Totnesmartin (talk) 11:28, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Are there any sources that explicitly make this connection? If so, all is well. If not, it's a problematic. Reyk YO! 11:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
there's this, but it's another encyclopedia, not a source in itself. There are similar things online that hover around the topic, but I can't find an explicit connection :( Totnesmartin (talk) 12:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Minimal Age

What's the minimal age for playing test matches? Does anybody knows that? 77.23.22.143 (talk) 21:29, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's ever been thought necessary to specify one. If you're good enough, then you're old enough. JH (talk page) 21:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
There is no minimum age, but the physical strength and stamina needed for a five day match is usually beyond anybody under the age of 18. When I was at school (in South Africa), we had matches for under 15's and matches for any schoolboy. Very few under 15's ever played in the school 1st XI, let alone in full adult cricket, though there was one occasion that a visitng 15-year old took 100 runs off our 1st XI - Barry Richards. Martinvl (talk) 22:00, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
There's no minimum age according to the rules, but the youngest player was Hasan Raza of Pakistan, who was 14 on debut, and many players (particularly from Pakistan and India) made very young debuts -- most notably Sachin Tendulkar (16 yo). [3] StuartH (talk) 03:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Misnomer

A common misnomer has crept into the article, appearing under the heading "Weather". Under this heading, the article implies that the terms "wicket" and "pitch" are interchangeable. They are not and indeed are defined under the Laws of Cricket as quite separate things.

Also under this heading is an implication that the weather only affects the condition of the ball as a result of the ball bouncing on the pitch (referred-to as the "wicket").

Firstly, the surface upon which the ball lands in the bowler's delivery of the ball is the "pitch", not the "wicket". This surface is known in the Laws of Cricket (Law 7 specifically) as the "pitch". See Law 7.1 where it states: "1. Area of pitch The pitch is a rectangular area of the ground 22 yards/20.12m in length and 10ft/3.05m in width. It is bounded at either end by the bowling creases and on either side by imaginary lines, one each side of the imaginary line joining the centres of the two middle stumps, each parallel to it and 5ft/1.52m from it.". Source: http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-7-the-pitch,33,AR.html.

There are two "wickets" on a cricket field (Law 8 refers). These wickets each comprise of three stumps and two bails. There is a wicket at each end of the pitch and during each "over" one of those wickets forms the prime target for the bowler to aim at, hoping to break the wicket with the ball and so to "bowl out" the batsman. See Law 8.1 where it states: "1. Width and pitching Two sets of wickets shall be pitched opposite and parallel to each other at a distance of 22 yards/20.12m between the centres of the two middle stumps. Each set shall be 9 in/22.86cm wide and shall consist of three wooden stumps with two wooden bails on top.". Source: http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-8-the-wickets,34,AR.html.

Secondly, the weather will affect the condition of the playing surface of the whole ground (more than, and not just, the pitch). This whole-ground playing surface condition (specifically if it is wet) will affect the condition of the ball far more than will the pitch condition, especially as most turf pitches (the ones most likely, if at all, to be affected by weather conditions) these days are covered in inclement weather while the rest of the ground is not covered at all. The ball spends minimal time in contact with the surface of the pitch compared with its time in contact with the rest of the ground surface, particularly if runs are being scored. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepthought2006 (talkcontribs) 14:56, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it's better to use "pitch" in an article like this to avoid the risk of confusing readers who are unfamiliar with the game, but "wicket" has been used as a synonym for "pitch" for a very long time so cannot really be called a misnomer. JH (talk page) 16:52, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Completely agree with JH. For the purposes of this article use pitch where pitch is meant to avoid confusion but wicket is most certainly used to mean both the pitch and the wicket in common usage. Terms like sticky wicket would make no sense if pitch and wicket werent synoyms. Just to add to confusion wicket is also used as a synonym for dismissal but that is going to be harder to avoid. If we havnt got a note on the multiple uses of wicket we need one. --LiamE (talk) 19:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

First sentence

Not to make too big a deal out of it but the first sentence does not properly introduce the topic as required by WP:LEAD. I had tried to offer an improvement but one editor didn't like my suggestion. So I'll just tag the article for now and let those of you more involved debate it. --Mcorazao (talk) 18:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

The last significant discussion on the lead here was in March/April 2009 at which time it looked like this. There seemed to be a consensus then that it was deficient and didn't properly explain what the game actually was, per WP:LEAD. On that basis I'm being bold and adding my own tweak. –Moondyne 04:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
That's incorrect Moondyne - the version you quote was the agreed version. Prior to that the Lede was wordy and very bloated. IMO it's fast heading that way again. David T Tokyo (talk) 12:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Shall we try and push this up to B Class?

Hey everyone! Shall we attempt a collective effort to push this article to the lofty heights of B level on the Wiki scale... I was thinking that referencing of some more legitimate Cricketing sources like Wisden could help... What do we think? Geoff (talk) 23:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Error in overview section

This is taken from the introductary section (second paragraph): "In one version of Indoor Cricket, matches include just 6 players and last for 12 overs.[2]"

According to the cited reference, this should read '6 players per side' which would mean that the matches include 12 players total. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.138.107.74 (talk) 04:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Good spot. Fixed. –Moondyne 03:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Objectives section

Hi, I was comparing the article with baseball article which is an FA and found we could learn something from it's structure.

  • I suggest that Objectives section be renamed Rules and game-play or something similar because things like pitches, umpires etc. aren't objectives.
  • Also, I believe it is better if History section is topmost.
  • I also suggest we add a Statistics section mentioning wisden and cricinfo.
  • A cricket in popular culture section will be good where we can mention the many movies stories ... about cricket.
  • Uniqueness of each cricket ground eg. hitting a six in MCG v/s say in Singapore and Swing in england v/s spin of subcontinent deserves mention.

Since, article was a former fa ,i will no go ahead and make changes without other editor's opinion. Vinay84 (talk) 03:45, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Having waited, and seeing no disapproval, I am going ahead and making the changes Vinay84 (talk) 05:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Total Neophytes Need More Description

I read half-way through this article without figuring out how a run is scored. Yes, I'm American so I can't update the article reliably, but in a way I'm the target audience (barely knowing how cricket is played, that is). There should be at least a description of scoring units in the lead paragraph. It makes no sense to scroll down the TOC, jump to Objectives and then come back to the top for an account of history. As it stands, the lead paragraph does not give a good summary of how the game is played. Trashbird1240 (talk) 16:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

As you might have noticed, the section entitled "Runs" describes how runs are scored. The problem is that it is difficult to describe the ways in which runs are scored concisely in just one or two sentences, and that doing so might prompt one to attempt to describe other things (like how a ball is bowled, or how batsmen can be dismissed). There was a discussion many months ago (years?) about how descriptive the lead should be with regards to such things, and the conclusion was that only a cursory description of the game should be included, as anything more detailed would inevitably create a bloated and unwieldy lead paragraph. Having said that, perhaps we can find some way to make that information more easily obtainable. At the moment there seems to be a link to the article Runs in the lead paragraph for the curious who would like to know more about runs (eg. how they are scored). Elostirion (talk) 20:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Have added a sentence to try at say how a run is scored. This lack of a "how a run is scored" description has appeared often in comments. Other editors are welcome to modify.Vinay84 (talk) 07:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd keep it even simpler - In simple terms, a run is scored when batsmen run the length of the pitch without being dismissed. HiLo48 (talk) 07:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

World's second most popular sport? Really?

BBC News gives that honor to basketball: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11348053. In the Wikipedia article, reference #4 states "Cricket, which its fans say is the world’s second most popular sport" obviously has a problem of bias. The claim in reference #5 is from a guy who wrote a book called "“Batting on the Bosphorus: A Liquor-Fueled Cricket Tour Through Eastern Europe" -- liquor-fueled enthusiasm generally doesn't inspire my confidence. And, lastly, reference #6 supports the second place claim by stating that its popular in India which has a population of 1.5 billion. I would think the popularity of the sport is based upon viewership, attendance, club revenue, rather than the assumption that an entire nation sits glues to the TV for every game. Extremely popular in China, I would gather that basketball gets far more of those markers than cricket, which under the same false premise balances out India :) ... At any rate, I'm not trying to prove something for basketball, just that this claim about cricket and its references in this Wikipedia article are suspect, at best. 99.22.228.93 (talk) 21:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

This was actually removed from the article in the distant past due to the lack of good references, so it must have sneaked back in. I suspect that in terms of team sports we can safely say that soccer is way out in front, but the second most popular team sport is a little more hard to pin down. It probably is between basketball and cricket though! Andrew nixon (talk) 23:00, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I would agree with that last statement. And it would be incredibly difficult to prove either way, involving lots of assumptions. If there is a very reliable source which claims that one or the other is number 2, then that would be worth using, but I haven't seen that source yet. HiLo48 (talk) 00:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
It's high up the list of popular sports by number of players/fans, because of its popularity in South Asia - but as for "number of countries played in" it falls down - most of Europe, the Americas and the Middle East hardly know of it. When cricket is an olympic sport things may change. Totnesmartin (talk) 09:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
PS - I've just been searching online to find out how many people in the world play cricket. The only answer I could find was 3 billion, from the highly dubious Yahoo! Answers. Is there a Reliable source out there? Totnesmartin (talk) 09:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
These are the countries that (for the most part) still play Cricket: British Empire - that doesn't include countries which once had a large British influence, such as Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, etc. India and Pakistan also play Cricket (and very successfully too), and I suggest a look at their respective populations to see the likely number of people playing the game.Unsigned, by some bloke
That wouldn't come up with anything we can put in the article. WP:OR and WP:SYNTH would stymie us. The best we could do would be to have a list of registered players from every country. Totnesmartin (talk) 12:05, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Appeals:

The article states: 'Before the umpire will award a dismissal and declare the batsman to be out, a member of the fielding side (generally the bowler) must "appeal".' This is not technically true - all bowled dismissals and the vast majority of caught dismissals never involve an appeal at all - or, indeed a decision by the umpire. Reading the article, it would be easy to make the common misapprehension that every dismissal must be both appealed and awarded. Perhaps something like: 'If the legitimacy of a dismissal is in any doubt, it is the umpire's responsibility to decide upon the outcome. Before the umpire will award a dismissal and declare the batsman to be out, a member of the fielding side (generally the bowler) must "appeal".' would be better. 213.70.98.2 (talk) 13:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Not true - Law 27.1 1. Umpire not to give batsman out without an appeal Neither umpire shall give a batsman out, even though he may be out under the Laws, unless appealed to by a fielder. This shall not debar a batsman who is out under any of the Laws from leaving his wicket without an appeal having been made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.11.185 (talk) 13:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)


Types of matches

This section requires serious editing.

Format: Cricket can be divided into timed games - in which the total length of the match is decided in advance, but no stipulation is put on the length of the innings of one side; and overs games, in which the maximum amount of overs faced by each team is stipulated. A combination of the two is rare but not unheard of.

Cricket can then be subdivided into one innings or two innings games - but there is no reason why it should be assumed that timed games always have 2 innings and limited overs games always have one innings. At an amateur level in the UK, both single innings timed games and double innings limited overs games are perfectly common.

"Major and minor" cricket are not standard terms, and should therefore be removed - we might as well talk about "big boys" and "little boys". If we are talking about international cricket, then we should talk about the ICC awarding games full test status or full ODI or T20 status.

If we are talking about domestic cricket - we should discuss the awarding of "first class status" for 2 innings timed games, and "list A status" for limited overs games by the national governing body.

The article also appears to suggest that all two innings games are automatically "first-class cricket", which is very misleading. Perhaps we could have a little box listing all the various first class and list A leagues and tournaments around the world? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.70.98.2 (talk) 13:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


Strong support to the Last suggestion Vinay84 (talk) 05:16, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Attempt started at User:Vinay84/Template:Professional CricketVinay84 (talk) 13:52, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Very Poorly Written

I have been reading this article for over 30 minutes and I still have no idea how one scores and what the object (details not just "dismiss the batter") of each side is. 95% of people reading this article are going to want to know what this sport is all about and what the objectives are, this should be included in the begging of the article, instead of obsessing over the dimensions of the wickets. This article gets a D in my book. Fix it!


24.24.82.172 (talk) 04:24, 8 October 2010 (UTC) American Dood


will try to score as many runs as possible :it is there at the top para of the Intro.Vinay84 (talk) 04:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Photograph required: Uniqueness of each field section

Can anyone get a picture of any of the Field s with quirks of their own. If we can have one showing the slope at Lords, or size of MCC vs a small ground , it would be greatVinay84 (talk) 13:33, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Does Canterbury still have the tree in outfield? That's one hell of a quirk!!! 78.146.12.164 (talk) 11:53, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but - I feel a simple introduction is still missing

Could it seem that this carefully crafted and formerly featured article might be an intricate task to read one's way into for the utterly uninitiated? While many will be perfectly familiar with the concept of bat-and-ball team sports, some may lack this familiarity. For those, and to save them having to read up on it in other articles, I feel a very brief explanation at the beginning might come in helpful, stating the general workings of a game of Cricket in simple (if much simplified) words, such as the game being about (if you forgive me) destroying the batting party's wicket with the ball while they in turn attempt to protect it from being destroyed by batting the ball away and, intermittently, running across the (sorry) field as (sorry) often as possible without failing their task.

This might be considered a delicate change by some participants so I dont't dare be WP:bold enough to try an implementation right away. Comments and execution welcome.

Thanks everybody involved for your consideration.

--217.226.56.244 (talk) 21:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

OK How about this as a suggestion?
Cricket is a bat-and-ball team sport.
One team bats and the other fields. All of the players on the fielding team are present on the field - one of whom (the bowler) bowls a ball towards a wooden wicket. The batting team have two players (the batsmen) on the field, one of whom stands in front of the wicket and tries with his bat to prevent the ball from hitting the wicket.
If the batsman succeeds in hitting the ball some distance, he then may decide to run, that is to run the 22 yards from the wicket he is defending towards a second identical wicket. If he does run, then the other batsman, who will have been waiting by the second wicket, needs to run in the opposite direction at the same time
While the batsmen are running, the fielding team will try to retrieve the ball and throw it at the wicket.
If the wicket is hit by the ball, either as a result of the batsman failing to hit the ball away - or as a result of the ball hitting the wicket before a running batsman has reached it, the batsman is dismissed from the field, and the next member of the batting team takes his place. A batsman is also dismissed if the ball he hits is caught by a fielder before it touches the ground, or if his body (rather than the bat) prevents the ball from hitting the wicket.
The object of the game for the batting team is to score as many runs as they can. The object of the game for the fielding team is to dismiss all the batsmen from the batting team as quickly as they can.


94.172.24.194 (talk) 18:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Any summarised explanation in the lead will exclude something that someone thinks is important. Yours places an emphasis on running between the wickets, but doesn't tell us what a wicket is. Batsmen rarely run 22 yards. It doesn't explain what bowling is. (Everywhere else that word is used it means something very different.) It doesn't explain a field. Just simple examples. I suggest that, rather than producing a set of words, those who want a change contribute to a list of what they think are the key points about the game that should be in the lead. I guess mine are italicised above. HiLo48 (talk) 20:56, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Good luck ;) My newest attempt is as follows:
Cricket is a bat-and-ball team sport. Variations exist, but the most popular form is played on an oval-shaped outdoor arena known as a cricket field at the centre of which is a rectangular 22-yard (20.12 m) long pitch that is the focus of the game. A game (or match) is contested between two teams of eleven players each. One team of batsmen will try to score as many runs as possible while the other team bowls and fields, trying to dismiss the batsmen and limit the runs scored by the batting team. All eleven of the fielding team and only two of the batsmen are on the field at any one time as well as two umpires who adjudicate dismissal decisions and control other aspects of the game. A run is scored for the batting team after a bowler from the fielding team bowls a ball towards one of the two batsmen who hits the ball with his bat and runs to the opposite end of the pitch. The batsman's partner will run from the bowler's end of the pitch while the striking batsman is running. The bowler's action is distinct from a conventional throwing action in that the bowler's arm is required to be held straight at the elbow.
A batsman may be dismissed (given 'out') in a number of ways. These include: the batsman hits the ball which is retrieved by one of the fielders and it is thrown back and hits the wicket while the batsman is still running; the ball is hit by the batsman and caught by a fielder before it hits the ground; the batsman misses hitting the ball while it is in flight from the bowler, and it then strikes the wicket; or the ball hits the batsman's body when the ball would have otherwise carried through and hit the wickets. When the batsman is dismissed he leaves the field and another member of his team comes on to take his place. The teams switch between batting and fielding at the end of an innings, which occurs when ten of the eleven batsmen are dismissed.
Moondyne 02:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not "many" but "several" ways to score a run

In the section, Rules and Game-play, it says:

"A run is scored when the batsman has run the length of the pitch after hitting the ball with his bat, although as explained below there are many ways of scoring runs"

The section referred to describes (at a quick count) seven ways to score runs. Seven does not count as "many", by any stretch of the imagination. A better phrase would be:

"... although as explained below there are several ways of scoring runs" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.13.218 (talk) 13:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

No mention of World Champions!

To much emphasis on Cricket ranking and something called Cricketing Index (which are quite useless to say the least since cricket is not judged like chess). But no mention about world champions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.139.8.76 (talk) 07:31, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Have a look at the section labelled Limited overs. HiLo48 (talk) 07:43, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 94.202.239.13, 7 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} The claim that it is the second most popular sport in the world is not adequately supported. The associated footnote links to an article in which a proponent of the sport makes the claim without providing adequate support. Until such support is provided, the final sentence in the intro section should read "according to some proponents of the sport". 94.202.239.13 (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2011 (UTC) Not done:That reference appears to be reliable, and every list I look at online marks Cricket as the second most popular sport in the world. While those sites generally don't meet WP:RS, they definitely aren't all by "cricket proponents." Keep in mind that there is really no doubt that it's the most popular sport in India, and their population alone is enough to push it very high. Unless you have reliable sources that dispute this view, I'm inclined to leave it in. Anyone else disagree? Qwyrxian (talk) 10:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Link

Not sure if there's a high school Cricket page but thought you guys might be intersted in reading this...I'm trying to revamp the article for my high school (which is closed now unfortunately) but we fielded a high school cricket team. Check it out: Cardinal Gibbons School. Anyway to get a link on this page or the cricket high school page? Wberkey (talk) 20:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Is Cricket just only a Game (Entertainment) or concerned with proud of Nation or a Business?

Game (Entertainment):
1. It (Cricket) is only a game, not more than it. And game is playing for creating character.
2. One philosopher told “I can’t know a man even I live with him for so many days but if I play a game with him for an hour only, I can know him”. It means game is the way to make relationship closer. That’s why according to me countries are supporting games. As well if we see history of Olympic, it seems also a part of this theory.
3. Yes it is right when player plays, he should be aggressive. But spectators should not be aggressive, they should only enjoy cricket as a game.
4. We know that players are coming from different-different places, their nature & culture are also different-different, then we cannot give them responsibility of our National Proud.
5. As well as they cannot be an ideal for nation, however as a player he can be for any rising player.


Proud of Nation Concerned:
1. Being an Indian, I am always willing that our team must win.
2. Its question of our proud, we should think that among billions of people even elevens have not talent or ability to win a match or word cup.
3. If any player creates record then he/she become famous as an Indian, so its concerned with proud of nation. And when he/she brought up in India then obviously nation also support to draw out his/her talent.
4. Yes, game exposes character, so in this way also it is concerned with national proud.
5. Yes, players are coming from different-different states, and there is so much diversity (variety) in them, even though if they play & perform well then it’s proud.


Business:
1. Nothing is bad to earn money from Cricket & Indian Premier League is the example of it. Organizers, Franchises, Cricketers etc are earning but people can also get entertainment.
2. Yes, those elevens have talent & they are using their talent to earn money.
3. This business can provide employment to retired cricketers, electronic & print media, etc.
4. Cricket & cricketers are best medium for advertisement of any product. Then they have no worry to do any publicity stunt.
5. This game is career for cricketers & they’re maintaining their health for cricket, they’re not playing for health.


Conclusion:
Now in a days all are considered as a business then it is a game or art or anything, therefore it is not bad if cricketers or businessman or concerned persons earning money from it. But sometime due to this some nuisance also enters in it like match fixing, dirty politics, provincialism, underworld, etc. At that time if we considered as National Proud then it will surely hurt us. So it is better to consider it as only a game. However if any cricketer is playing good and do some extraordinary then it is a proud for whole nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayursharma55 (talkcontribs) 11:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

stuff

Hi omri and adam this is profesor poopy pants