Talk:List of writers from peoples indigenous to the Americas

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More redlinks[edit]

Here are a few more redlinks of more obscure individuals from the main article:

-Uyvsdi (talk) 20:19, 4 August 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi

More redlinks from the list:


  1. ^ Wub-e-ke-niew
  2. ^ a b c Cite error: The named reference n311 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ McClinton-Temple and Velie 339
  4. ^ Edward Benton-Banai Bio at Turtle IslandTraditional tale by Benton-Banai
  5. ^ Fred Bigjim:Analysis by James Ruppert
  6. ^ Review from Earthen Vessel Article from Alternet on language school activities
  7. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference mtv247 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  8. ^ [1]
  9. ^ "Native America Calling". Native America Calling. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  10. ^ "PRESS". Trevino Brings Plenty. 2005-02-02. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  11. ^ "emily.html". Northstar.k12.ak.us. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  12. ^ "Author Details". Authorsinschools.com. Retrieved 2009-06-27.  [dead link]
  13. ^ "Bruchac, Jesse Bowman (Abenaki) ― North American Native Authors Catalog Online". Nativeauthors.com. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  14. ^ "Biographical Info". Maligeet.net. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  15. ^ "Diane Burns, Native American Lower East Side poet". Thevillager.com. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  16. ^ "E.K. Caldwell". Dickshovel.com. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  17. ^ Wilson, Linda D. "Callahan, Sophia Alice (1868–1894)." Oklahoma Historical Society's Encyclopedia of Oklahoma History and Culture. (retrieved 10 Jan 2011)
  18. ^ "Joy and Expectation in Medellín about the XIX International Poetry Festival". Festivaldepoesiademedellin.org. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  19. ^ "Poetry International Web - Fredy Chicangana". International.poetryinternationalweb.org. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  20. ^ "Poetry International Web - Briceida Cuevas Cob". International.poetryinternationalweb.org. Retrieved 2009-06-27. 
  21. ^ a b "History of the California Center for Native Nations." California Center for Native Nations. Retrieved 11 July 2012.
  22. ^ a b Sigafus and Ernst
  23. ^ Liselotte Erdrich, pdf
  24. ^ Lance Foster, The Indians of Iowa
  25. ^ Hansen, Terri. "The Wordcraft Circle is back again and getting better." News from Indian Country. Retrieved 11 July 2012.
  26. ^ Santee Frazier
  27. ^ Introduction. Mayan Literature.. Retrieved 29 July 2009.
  28. ^ "Rayna D. Green." University of Minnesota: Voices from the Gaps. Retrieved 14 July 2012.
  29. ^ UC Davis, Native American Studies
  30. ^ National Library of Australia
  31. ^ a b Pachakutiy taki: Canto y poesía quechua de la transformación del mundo
  32. ^ Report of the International Poetry Festival of Medellín
  33. ^ as listed at Yax Te' Books
  34. ^ Memoria del Festival Internacional de Poesía de Medellín
  35. ^ Robert J. Conley (2007-12-16). A Cherokee Encyclopedia. UNM Press. p. 150. ISBN 978-0-8263-3951-5. 
  36. ^ Books & Authors: Victor Montejo. Curbstone Press. Retrieved 29 July 2009.
  37. ^ Porter and Roemer 322
  38. ^ Peyer 382
  39. ^ McClinton-Temple and Velie 290
  40. ^ "We Shall Remain: Episode 5: Wounded Knee." PBS. Retrieved 29 July 2012.
  41. ^ University of Oregon: Faculty & Staff
  42. ^ McClinton-Temple and Velie 353
  43. ^ Cite error: The named reference pr156 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  44. ^ Rebecca Hatcher Travis
  45. ^ Report of the International Poetry Festival of Medellín
  46. ^ Porter and Roemer 122
  47. ^ Latin American Indian Literatures Journal. Geneva College. 2007. 
  48. ^ Columba Portuhgal

-Uyvsdi (talk) 20:06, 3 November 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Of tribal DESCENT[edit]

The Native American Arts and Crafts Act" specifically prohibits individuals not enrolled as members of a federally recognized tribe from falsely identifying their work as 'native' or 'Indian.' One of the few remaining sovereign rights of Native American tribes is regulation of membership. Skirting the law by identifying authors as a "descents" of a tribe is comparable to the marketing advantage gained by adding forged signatures to counterfeit designer clothing. It is illegal for both the seller and the artist. By aiding fake Indian authors to 'sell' their work by listing if under the title “Native American Authors,” Wikipedia not only disrespects Native Americans, but puts itself in legal jeopardy by aiding and abetting a crime.

The Native Arts and Crafts Act originated in response to imports falsely labeled as "Indian." It was passed before the proliferation of "home grown fake Indians," but both are prohibited. These fraudulent "Indians" have been eliminated from many other art forms, but are proliferating in the literary arts which are fraudulently marketed and used to climb the academic ladder.

The disclaimer in the introduction to this article demonstrates knowledge of the issue, but by including the authors who identify themselves as "Descendants" in a list of Native American authors aids both the artist and the seller of their counterfeited arts. It demonstrates disrespect for both Native Americans and tribal rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.128.192 (talk) 23:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

There's no such thing as the "Native American Arts and Crafts Act." The American Indian Arts and Crafts Act covers visual artists and includes members of state-recognized tribes. Yuchitown (talk) 03:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown
Please check the archives of discussions on this page, as this issue has been debated pretty extensively. The IACA does not apply to literary works. As there is no legal requirement to prove enrolment, and because many tribes do not police authors, it isn't possible to say in many cases whether an author is a citizen without doing original research (not allowed under the Wikipedia policy WP:OR) Vizjim (talk) 06:49, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
"Descendant" is a specific term used by some tribes to describe that they acknowledge that a person may not meet their current blood quantum or other requirements for enrollment, but does have a valid claim to tribal descent. Montanabw(talk) 21:26, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Responding to User:Vizjim's statement: yes, it is very possible to trace someone's enrollment. Some tribes do have laws and policies concerning authors. If the individual is notable by Wikipedia standards, the tribe writes about that person using enrollment terms. Yuchitown (talk) 21:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown
OK, a useful first step would be to get a list of tribes who do have laws and policies concerning authors. I've checked the Navajo and Cherokee codes and can find nothing of the sort that you mention, but if you know more or are willing to do the work across all tribal nations then that would be a great step towards a solution that would respect individual tribal nation laws. I am not saying that you cannot trace someone's enrollment but unless this appears in a publicly accessible website it would count as original research. I think you overestimate the amount of press releases tribes send out about authors and the strength of tribal websites and news services once you get outside the largest tribes. Just to take a random example, Janice Gould is definitely Wikipedia-notable, but is not mentioned on the Konkow website [2]: yet any policy must cover small tribal nations as well as the large well funded ones. You do frequently get repudiations where tribes say such-and-such an author does not have the ancestry or citizenship they claim - those cases such as Ward Churchill are dealt with already in the standfirst. Vizjim (talk) 12:28, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Wait, sorry, I thought you were the OP. Were you just making this point for clarification? Vizjim (talk) 12:30, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
No, I'm not the OP. Yuchitown (talk) 18:53, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown
  • Also note that this argumentation does not apply to Indigenous peoples outside of the US, where there is not usually any such thing as "enrollment" and formal affiliation.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 16:25, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Canada has status Indians and enrollment processes. There is controversy in other countries about certain celebrities claiming indigenous descent, such as Q'orianka Kilcher claiming Huachipaeri descent, but due to systematic bias most of us aren't familiar enough with the issues to comment. Yuchitown (talk) 18:53, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown
    • My take is that perhaps the list itself could be annotated (and sourced) with "enrolled member of foo tribe" or "self-identifies as foo" or "descended from foo ancestors" or whatever can be sourced. Montanabw(talk) 00:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
That's already happening to a degree. If a living or late 20th-century individual from the US or Canada is listed next to a tribal affiliation, then that person is an enrolled member of that tribe. The original poster, 68.97.128.192, has a point that "of descent" is a wild card—it could mean people who clearly are descended from a tribe but cannot enroll, e.g. Rose B. Simpson, or people who are widely accepted to have heritage in their tribes, Craig Womack. Self-identification alone is insufficient; there has to be some acknowledgment from the tribes in question. The best practice (already partially in place) is define a person by their specific tribe. Such as Waawaate Fobister being Grassy Meadows First Nation Anishinaabe or Dennis Banks being Leech Lake Ojibwe, as opposed to simply "Ojibwe." Tribal websites aren't going to cover Native writers, but tribal publications will. "Cherokee" is the most contested affiliation, since the most non-native people claim that identity, but both the Cherokee One Feather and the Cherokee Phoenix are online. Yuchitown (talk) 18:53, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown

What defines "writers"?[edit]

On a different tack, how does one determine who is notable enough as a writer to be included in this list? I found under wp:author:

Authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals:

The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.

The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.

Right now, it seems like any Indigenous person from the Americas who's ever published anything is included, but every academic would be expected to write. What defines a notable "writer" here? Yuchitown (talk) 19:02, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown

I'd say that GNG applies, but we may need to be a little more assertive about looking outside the box for third party critical acclaim and such. Blogs, self-publishing, all that is still a no-no. Montanabw(talk) 21:01, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

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