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Pulses ARE vegetables[edit]

Give me strength ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.97.111 (talk) 21:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence free rant??[edit]

I just archived an evidence free rant per WP:NOTFORUM, but the software didn't allow me to leave an edsum. It would have said "Evidence free rant removed per WP:NOTFORUM" and wanted you all to know. The archives are easily viewed using the links to the archives of the page provided. - Roxy the dog 16:29, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bias in text about macrobiotic diet[edit]

I feel the text about macrobiotic diet is very biased and subjective. I can hear a judgemental viewpoint underpinning the whole article and towards the dietary guidelines, rather than a neutral curiosity and openness about the topic. Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be non biased and simply for the sharing of information?

Apparently it is according to the Wikipedia guidelines: Advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment of any kind: commercial, political, scientific, religious, national, sports-related, or otherwise. An article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view.

This specific article seems to contradict this very guideline.

To me the macrobiotic diet sounds like a very wholesome and nourishing way to eat - eating seasonally, organically and without toxins, correct me if i'm wrong in thinking those sound are good things. It's definitely much better than the mainstream diets that most people adopt - take aways, high fat greasy foods, processed ready meals, processed non organic animal products full of hormones and antibiotics, high sugar and antibiotic filled dairy.

I feel it's very concerning that you've labelled the macrobiotic diet as a 'fad' diet and shared the info here with obvious bias and intention to influence in a certain direction. 2A02:C7C:6E40:AE00:709E:8E94:5875:601A (talk) 19:18, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be non biased and simply for the sharing of information?" - LOL. Supposed to, yes, but it's chock-full of the most extreme propaganda. Just read anything at all concerning (yes, that's what 'concerning' means - about something; not 'worrying', the way you use it) Israel ...

A WP:BIGMISTAKE. Bon courage (talk) 19:31, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't even know what these short hands mean lol i'm new to commenting on posts - deffo need some education around it. I'll review and Google it 2A02:C7C:6E40:AE00:559B:68E6:F8FC:BF3D (talk) 11:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't even know what these short hands mean That is why you can click on them and find out. --Hob Gadling (talk) 11:44, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will, thank you 2A02:C7C:6E40:AE00:C0C0:B078:EC4D:6DD9 (talk) 12:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bon courage i think this kind of response feels a bit dismissive: Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers

the original poster seems legitimately concerned that the article is not accurately summarizing the sources, though i understand that they may have not be so clear about this concern

there seems to be some confusion about the definition of a "macrobiotic diet," and whether it is "nothing but whole grains" (according to one cited source) or if it is "a diet consisting mostly of vegetables, fruits, and whole grains" which (according to another cited source) "is associated with general health benefits and lower risk for several diseases" dzahsh (talk) 14:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have misunderstood what the OP wrote, which had nothing to do with "summarizing the sources". Bon courage (talk) 14:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Origin, founder[edit]

Why isn't Christoph Wilhelm Hufeland mentioned? He published "Makrobiotik oder Die Kunst, das menschliche Leben zu verlängern" (1796), 54 years before Sagen Ishizuka was born, and 97 years before George Ohsawa!?!

Perhaps the latter 2 formalised the 'diet', but it's surprising to not see any reference to what it seems to be the origin of he term. Adler Looks Jorge (talk) 21:18, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As the article shows, macrobiotic treatment of diet is based on yin/yang analysis. Some compare it to an acid/base scale in chemistry. Hufeland, though a vegetarian proponent, may not have had this analysis in his work. The term "macrobiology" is called out by microbiology, so various interpretations may be expected. — Rgdboer (talk) 01:23, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Locked?[edit]

Why is this page locked? This is very unusual for such a niche diet-related page.

Anyways it's clearly written in a very negatively biased way and we should do something about it. Pages like this, that are clearly influenced by some sort of industry bias, make Wikipedia look bad. If you archive this thread you're just proving my point. Jay855a (talk) 02:37, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Locked due to drive by IPs and new accounts making POV edits and putting vandalism onto the article. Psychologist Guy (talk) 07:37, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. The whole article is vandalism and bias and propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.97.111 (talk) 21:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]