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Slide positions[edit]

Could a knowlegeable trombonist mention the positions of the slide, and the in-joke that 8th (?) position actually means that the slide has flown right out and brained the viola section? ;-) -- Tarquin

The trombone has 7 positions. I've never heard of the joke. Most trombonists know exactly how far their slide goes, so they wouldn't make the mistake of getting to "8th" position. It is, however, possible to hurt somebody if you're not careful.
Yeah, I accidentally did that when I was a young trombonist. It was before I had my F attachment trombone (the one with the extra tubing that has the valve), and I had to use 7th position during a rehearsal on a new song we were sightreading. Well, I put it at 7th and nailed this one guy in the head (he had a fro, so it cushioned SOME of it, but it hurt a lot anyways). Then, the next day I launched my slide while we were marching to that same song... I am afraid to say the slide lost when it his the bleachers. Just FYI... don't launch your slide! --Robert P. Cline (Peytonio) 15:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, I can relate a story passed on to my big band by one of our guest artistés, I can't exactly recall who. Anyway, another big band had been rehearsing for a gig with a soloist, and one of the trombones managed to lose their slide - so much so it slid under the saxes and ended up between the soloist's feet. He picked it up, turned round and said "This belong to any of you guys?" to which, quick as a whip, the trombonist replied "It's one of the trumpeter's, give it here and I'll pas it back to him..." Rawling 00:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see an illustration of the positions and one of the parts in the article. PrometheusX303 21:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


well, in my highschool band, we concider the last little bit before the slide actually comes off to be a falseto 8th position...used to play the C above peddle Bflat.

ive had a slide come out of my hand while playing the alma matter and it got a dent when it met the bleachers...now i use a lightweight nickle slide, and have no trouble with dents. and in jazz band i have been known to take my slide off while polaying, hit the bass guitar player in the back of the head for messin up, put the slide back and continue playing

Slide position chart; most trombones are tenor trombones, like the valveless one in the middle.

PrometheusX303, I uploaded a PD image. The resolution stinks; it's barely legible. I'll look at fitting it into the article. You might like these slide position photos on the German Wikipedia better, though. It has a later version which is more photographic and less diagrammatic. HLHJ (talk) 04:55, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Under the "Types" section, the following line appears: "The second trigger facilitates playing the otherwise problematic low B." In my experience playing the bass trombone, the second trigger no more facilitates the playing of low B than the first trigger does as both can be used to simulate 7th position with ease. As I've never edited an article, I'd like to not make any changes to the article. I contend that the second trigger is useful for playing notes below the staff, commonly referred to as peddle notes or tones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:170D:8493:D1BD:D907:7C09:6428 (talk) 06:15, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy up[edit]

This article is a bit uneven. For example, on one hand there's ludicrous detail about tubing bore diameters, upper partial tuning, types of valve, and on the other, barely two sentences about its place in Jazz music. Is there really a need for a separate Types of trombone article, which repeats material from this article? There is no "types of clarinet" article, for instance, and there are more types of clarinet than there are useful trombones. Usually, only tenor and bass are encountered, with maybe a dash of alto, and occasionally contrabass in Hollywood movie soundtracks or Wagner's Ring cycle. Soprano trombones are novelty instruments with no proven historical performance and practically zero written music. I'd like to tidy this up and remove the repetition (two separate sections about its construction!) and the un-encyclopedic content - e.g. we don't need to maintain a list of manufacturers, or a list of 20th century composers who wrote trombone parts, or how-to-play section). — Jon (talk) 11:58, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Flugabone[edit]

Why does Flugabone redirect to this article, but the flugabone isn't mentioned in the article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Posaune[edit]

I got an idea that the etymology is off track. I think that "posaune" derives from the concatenation of " poss" the action of pushing up and down as in "possing" and "posing stick" and "horn". Coincidence? - I think not. Professionals, please dive in. 2bahU4 (talk) 17:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, 2bahU4, for the suggestion. The etymology of "posaune" is not mentioned in this article. How can it be off track? This article only mentions the etymology of "trombone" itself. Your theory is contradicted here at the German Wikipedia article, which proposes that it is derived from the Latin Buccina, an earlier brass instrument. So to make room for your idea you would need (1) the article to discuss the etymology of Posaune specifically, and (2) a reliable source supporting your idea. I hate to pour cold water but I don't think this will fly. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 18:28, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for reorganisation[edit]

Please note, a discussion has started on the Types of trombone talk page about splitting this and Trombone into their composite articles for consistency with the other orchestral instruments. I've put a banner on both articles alerting editors to this discussion; I'm not sure how to kick off the "proposal to merge" process as it involves several articles at once. If anyone knows or can help, your input would also be appreciated :-) Jon (talk) 00:44, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]