Talk:$pringfield (or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling)

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March 8, 2009 Good article nominee Listed
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Current status: Good article

Guest star(s)[edit]

While this section in the infobox shows up on the edit page, it doesn't show up on the actual page (or at least it doesn't work on my computer). Does anyone know how to fix this? Cowmeister88 23:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Reverting[edit]

I`m reverting the article to the previous one with the quotes section, I dont think iy should be eliminated--ometzit<col> 15:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Andrew Dice Clay[edit]

Someone added this text as a reference for Krusty xxx stand-up comedy and I think it can be true, but another user classified as vandalism and reverted it. Is it or is it not?

Krusty the Klown appears as a performer in the casino doing an apparently "Adult-Oriented" act. He sings the lines "Herpes bo-berpes fee-fi-fo-ferpes" which disgusts the crowd. This is probably a reference to comedian Andrew Dice Clay who often incorporated explicit versions of nursery rhymes into his stand-up act--ometzit<col> 12:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)--ometzit<col> 12:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It might be best to replace 'This is probably a reference to...' with 'this may be reminiscent of...' to make the comment more diplomatic. NIN (talk) 14:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted scenes[edit]

Because I own the season 5 disc I've added a deleted scenes paragraph. Okay? Pacguy19 01:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I am removing the deleted scenes because they are not relevant to the episode and they are not included on any other episode page. --Simpsons fan 66 10:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Please put them back in, that's pretty much what encyclopediae are for. I hate that they delete scenes, and it's nice to be able to read them. Didn't they delete the rain man scene? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 04:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Reference to jobless "philosophy majors"[edit]

In the episode, Kent Brockman reports, "Scott, things aren't as happy as they used to be down here at the unemployment office. Joblessness is no longer just for philosophy majors. Useful people are starting to feel the pinch." [1] This appears to be self-mocking humor, since creator Matt Groening is said to have studied philosophy as an undergraduate at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington. [2][3] Matt2h (talk) 19:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

That may be true, but to include it in the article we need a reliable source. Theleftorium 19:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


Amphicar[edit]

The episode references the amphicar in its historic opening segment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphicar --77.131.218.88 (talk) 13:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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Cultural reference[edit]

At the end of the episode, Homer claims to once having let in an escaped lunatic, because he was dressed like Santa. I remember seeing a film from like the 60's, years ago, where a little girl lets in an escaped lunatic (because he was dressed as Santa) and the escapee kills the girl's mother. Homer's line seems to be a reference to that, however, I don't remember the name of the movie. All I remember is that the film was about a group of recently deceased, who got together and told how they died.--User:coq87rougeCoq87rouge (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved Armbrust The Homunculus 05:14, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


$pringfield (Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling)$pringfield – The current title is too long to use, regardless of sources. There are no other episodes of the same name yet. George Ho (talk) 05:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Support Sure. Compare to, of course, Dr. Strangelove. --BDD (talk) 19:37, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
    The film is most commonly known as Dr. Strangelove. Do reliable sources indicate that this TV episode is most commonly known as "$pringfield"?
    That its name parodies a famous motion picture's long title is a good argument against abbreviating it, which would obscure a noteworthy example of the cultural references for which The Simpsons is known. In fact, one of our sources is an article from The Guardian in which this episode is cited in the context of the show's recurring allusions to Stanley Kubrick's work. —David Levy 11:51, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose - We should use the formal title, regardless of length. Dough4872 01:34, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose. What problem does the proposed change (using a modified title for one episode of a TV show with 538 episodes broadcast so far) purport to solve? What evidence is there that the abbreviated version reflects common usage? (The nominator's "regardless of sources" language seems to imply that we should overrule them arbitrarily. Why?) What advantage offsets the obfuscation of a noteworthy cultural reference? —David Levy 11:51, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Being too long a title is not a valid reason to rename an article, plus the current title is the correct name for this episode. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose it should use "Springfield" per MOS:TM, and "Springfield" would then require a disambiguator, so the page should be called Springfield (Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling) -- 65.94.78.9 (talk) 05:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
    Setting aside the fact that the episode's title isn't a trademark or similar, "when deciding how to format a trademark, editors should choose among styles already in use by sources (not invent new ones)". Replacing the dollar sign with an "S" would render the title nonsensical by imposing an arbitrary change for no apparent reason. —David Levy 06:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
    It is a registered mark, being a title of a copyrighted commercial work, same as "Se7en", an example used on the page. -- 65.94.78.9 (talk) 12:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
    Yes, the guideline is poorly demarcated in that respect (and probably should be renamed and partially reworded), which is why I set aside the issue and focused on the fact that reliable sources routinely spell the episode's title with a dollar sign. (In the case of Se7en, wherein the "7" appears "purely for decoration", the spelling Seven also is commonly used.)
    In this instance, the dollar sign carries a semantic distinction, significantly affecting the title's meaning. (Most of the series takes place in a town called "Springfield", so that word's normal spelling conveys absolutely nothing about the episode's premise.) To substitute an "S" would be to invent a new style, which directly contradicts the intent behind the guideline. Our goal is to "choose the style that most closely resembles standard English" "among styles already in use by sources", not to indiscriminately replace nonstandard characters for the sake of replacing nonstandard characters. —David Levy 15:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
    There is no invention involved. It's already widely used "S" instead of "$" [1]. Further, that very long parenthesis statement already makes clear what this is about, and it is the parenthesis term, more than the dollar sign, that is indicative. -- 65.94.78.9 (talk) 20:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
    1. Please see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. You're citing an indiscriminate Google search, which includes such material as tweets, message board posts, customer reviews, et cetera. It also includes actual reliable sources (such as this book and this book), which Google has matched despite the authors' use of a dollar sign.
    2. I'm not referring to ambiguity with other subjects. I'm saying that replacing the dollar sign with an "S" materially alters the episode's title. Again, the character isn't purely decorative; it carries a semantic distinction that would be lost entirely, thereby eliminating the title's intended meaning. —David Levy 23:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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  1. ^ http://www.snpp.com/episodes/1F08.html
  2. ^ http://www.snpp.com/other/interviews/groening00b.html
  3. ^ http://www.evergreen.edu/alumni/writersproject/mattgroening.htm