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samaira cava —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.192.134.74 (talk) 14:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Rose Cross[edit]

Hi! Regarding the noticeboard alert 1313 and Rosicrucianism by editor Itsmejudith:

a) the original content by anon Special:Contributions/62.169.110.78 was solely as following:

1313: Foundation year of the Order of the Rose Cross (Rosicrucian Order), according to the Rosicrucian Fellowship. According to major occult writers, this Order was for the first time expounded in Dante's The Divine Comedy (1308–1321).[1]
My comment: the article Rosicrucianism already for a long time contains the previous data and related sources.

b) the problem came when anon Special:Contributions/222.155.33.69 added lines to the previous above content which mislead, intentionally or not, the less cautious readers, making believe that the ancient 1313 Rose Cross was actually the modern organization 'Freres Aines de la Rose+Croix'/FAR+C.[2]
Nevertheless, in the article Rosicrucianism itself it is shown that there are currently various modern groups: on one hand, a very few of which say only their movement to be within the Rosicrucian (Esoteric Christian) Tradition and to have been inspired by the enigmatic ancient Elder Brothers (Brethren) of the Rose Cross (fr. Les Frères Aînés de la Rose+Croix; de. Die Bruderschaft des Ordens der Rosenkreuzer; publicly revealed in the early 17th century Rosicrucian Manifestos), and, on the other hand, there are various other modern groups which during the 20th century claimed to have a direct historical lineage to the original Order or even to be the autentic Rosicrucian Order...

c) subsequently, editor Templeofajunta tried to correctly warn readers that the organization 'Freres Aines de la Rose+Croix'/FAR+C is a recent organization (1970s) and there is no supporting evidence, on the contrary, for those misleading lines previously written.[3]

In conclusion, as the original-initial data is sourced by different 19th and 20th authors i am re-introducing it again with those direct sources.

Thank you and Please feel free to state your viewpoint. --81.193.19.88 (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)