# Talk:17 (number)

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## What

What about edge of seventeen? *Shock*

reference for a 17 factoid I intend to add: Berlekamp, E. R. and Graham, R. L., Irregularities in the distributions of finite sequences, J. Number Theory 2 (1970), 152–161. (example 63) 4pq1injbok 22:55, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

## Globalization tag

I have removed the unexplained globalization tag from the "Age 17" section. Whenever you place a {{globalize}} tag on an article, please also take a minute to explain your concerns on the article's talk page. Is something specific missing? This will help other editors figure out what your actual concerns are. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

## missing shaggy dog story

When I was in college there was some kind of a shaggy dog story/joke circulating about why 17 was the only random number. This story seemed to be very popular amongst math majors. I don't remember exactly how it went. Still, I think it would be nice if someone would put it up here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.163.161 (talk) 02:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

## Randomness of 17

Throughout the page it says that 17 is the most and least random number. It even says MIT stated it is the most random number, then later in the article states MIT claimed 17 was the least random number. WHAT?--Phillies9513 (talk) 00:36, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

I think it's an "inside" joke. Bearian (talk) 15:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
17 is the "most" random number because it is chosen "more" often, and "least random" number because being chosen more often that makes it less random. Two faces of the same coin. Also, evidence of a shortcoming of the english language. When we simplify what we are trying to say, opposite meanings can be understood.Dhrm77 (talk) 15:46, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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Rescued link doesn't work. Not needed anyway. Removed: [1]. - DVdm (talk) 08:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
link restored and moved to external link section. Wayback template used before is not meant to be used for citations. Graphs shown in article are not found in other references, and can be found interesting. Especially the fact that 7 was the second highest choice of random number. The article doesn't explain why 17 is prefered when asked for a random number from 1 to 20. There is a simple explanation. When asked for a random number between 1 and 10, 7 is the favorite. When given a range of 1 to 20, people take advantage of the extension and add 10 (our usual counting base), picking therefore more often 17. Similarly, 37 is the favorite (adding 30 to 7) when the range is 1 to 100. I wonder what the favorite would be in the range of 1 to 1000. Dhrm77 (talk) 15:39, 8 February 2016 (UTC)