Talk:1948 Winter Olympics/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Truthkeeper88 (talk) 13:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Well written:

(a) the prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct;
(b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

Comment - Might not be a bad idea to modify the second sentence in the lead: ("The Games were the first to be celebrated after World War II, a twelve year hiatus.") by adding the date of the previous winter games.Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:25, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Very good, it has been added. H1nkles citius altius fortius 20:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes -- pass.

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;
(b) all in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines;
(c) it contains no original research.

Yes -- pass.

  • Broad in its coverage:
(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;
(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Comment: Not a huge problem, but in a few places focus is lost. For instance the information about Dick Button should be focused only on his participation in these Games and stop there, in my view.

I removed information about Button's exploits after the 1948 Games and augmented information about him and the 1948 Skating competition a little bit. H1nkles citius altius fortius 18:23, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Good. After re-reading the article, I think it would be a good idea to add as much as you know about the separate events within each discipline: e.g. break skiing into slalom, giant slalom and downhill, if those were the events that year; and give the distance events for speedskating, and so on. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
  • That was actually my goal for today until I discovered that my work had blocked access to all sports-related articles thanks to March Madness. I'll try to do this over the weekend. H1nkles citius altius fortius 21:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Ok I've split all the events into separate sections and started to add more info, I need to do more but will be away from a computer for a day or two. I will get it done though. H1nkles citius altius fortius 15:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I'll be gone for a day or two as well, so that's fine. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:25, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Ok I've added more information to the events section. I'm trying to balance it with going into too much detail and losing focus. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated. H1nkles citius altius fortius 17:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Yes -- pass.

  • Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Yes -- pass.

  • Illustrated, if possible, by images:

Yes -- pass.

(a) images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

Yes -- pass.

(b) images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

Comment: it would be nice to see more images, but perhaps they aren't available. The image of the ice-skater is a bit of a stretch because it's not from the Games in 1948. Suggest, if not already done, a comprehensive image search on Commons.

There isn't much in Commons though I found a shot of the ski jump. I also added a map with the location of St. Moritz. There are pictures of the town that are very nice but I don't know where I would them. I'll keep looking. H1nkles citius altius fortius 18:23, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
That's better. I wouldn't add an image of St. Moritz unless it was taken during the games, and probably not much chance of finding such an image. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:25, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes -- pass.

Additional comments: Will return with a few more comments. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 14:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your review, I'll do a thorough image search, Olympic Games images are a bit tricky because the IOC is very strict in guarding their intellectual property. I was able to get images for the 1956 Games because of Italy's rather lax copyright laws, I'll do some research on this. I'll also focus the information on Button and use the cite you gave me. Thanks a ton! H1nkles citius altius fortius 15:05, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Nice job! Truthkeeper88 (talk) 18:17, 23 March 2010 (UTC)