Talk:April 26, 1991 tornado outbreak
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I was there in April of 1991, stationed at McConnell AFB. I even took a picture of this one. Being from the Pacific NW, I had only seen tornadoes in textbooks and occasionally on the national news.
This beast was a sight to behold. I admit, that was the first time I was in fear of my life. There have been times since, but that was the first.
Data in the "List of confirmed tornadoes"
table is mispaced by one column. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, this article should either focus on the outbreak, or the F5 tornado should be broken off. Hurricanehink 22:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- The standard is that the outbreak gets a section, and if there was one or more major tornadoes, they get an additional section below with a reference in the chart. In this case, the F5 should have its own section below, with the note "see section on this tornado" added beside each of the tornadoes involved. CrazyC83 04:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I also added a section on the Red Rock OK tornado, since it was one of the more noteworthy twisters of the outbreak. No fatalities or significant damage, but the its track was 66 miles long and portable dopplar registered a windspeed of up to 286 mph. Bigphishy56 07:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Very good writing of the outbreak as a whole! That is exactly how it should be done! (Don't worry about the damage from the smaller tornadoes as they are hard to find) CrazyC83 16:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- In the formal paper that reported the Red Rock observations, Bluestein et al. (1993) reported the winds as 115-150 m/s (257-268 mph), with an uncertainty of 5-10 m/s. Also, the Doppler on Wheels group puts the maximum winds from the 3 May 1999 observations as 301 mph.Hebrooks87 15:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)Hebrooks87
I cleaned up the opening paragraph. It was too wordy and confused the reader regarding the actual subject of the article. It went into a tangent about the actual Andover, KS tornado instead of focusing on the title subject. MplsNarco 17:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)MplsNarco
If this article were to be cleaned up, and provided with in-line citations, it could be a Good article, possibly even featured. I'm not really familiar with the sources, and I don't want to have to go through the entire article introducing citations if I dont have to, so would someone who has worked on this article be willing to bring it up to snuff? Runningonbrains 20:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Sure thing, I created this article and never got a chance to finish up the citations and such. I'll try to do that as soon as possible.Bigphishy56 19:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Many of the sources are listed in the links menu. I will attempt to match these with their respective contributions in the text. Bigphishy56 19:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I moved the article named "Andover, Kansas Tornado Outbreak" to "Andover, Kansas tornado outbreak" to comply with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events). --Rosiestep (talk) 23:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
- Added year per Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Tornado's naming convention. Fixed double redirects. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Disputed times of the tornadoes
I strongly dispute the times of the tornadoes as being of UTC. For example, the F3 tornado cited as NW of Hanover, KS to N of Beatrice, NE did not occur around 10 AM local (UTC -0500) but did occur at about the local time listed--approximately 3.00 PM. Also, the F2 NW of Washington, KS and the F2 from N of Bushong, KS to NE of Grove, Ks through Wabaunsee, Shawnee, and Jackson counties all occurred during mid afternoon, not late morning.
I know this as I was en route from Kansas City to my parents home near Hanover, KS that afternoon and was listening to the warnings being issued and watching the clouds as I was driving west from St Joseph, MO on US 36 Highway. Also, once I got home I found out my grandfather's farm north of Hanover, KS had been hit and he and my mom and aunt had rode it out in the fruit cellar under the garage (fortunately there was minor damage to the house which was protected by a large grove of trees, but the barn was flattened and much debris was strewn about). Also, our neighbor's brother in-law's dairy farm north of Odell, NE was hit by that same tornado (as were too many others along the path).
Looking over the list of tornadoes I recall first hand, the times are consistent with Central Daylight Time (CDT) and not UTC. I suspect that is true for other times in the tables as well.
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Underpass construction reference
Okay, so I took out the part saying that an open girder design is rare for a few reasons. 1. The article it came from offers conflicting information (are they talking about all bridges nationwide or just the ones in that state?). 2. Not able to find a second source stating the design is rare. 3. I have seen for myself the design commonly used in the state I live.
The listed reference is now only an archived link, which puts in question whether any of the information has since been updated by the original poster (NWS in Norman, OK) or disputed in the road construction industry as true.