Talk:2009: Lost Memories

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Anti American?[edit]

It would even be hard to suggest that this movie is anti-Japanese! Americans play little or no part in the movie at all. (Maybe there were a few in the opening museum battle.) Whoever wrote that doesn't understand. The movie is also respectful to Japan. I don't think it plays on any Anti-Japanese sentiment at all.Bethereds 06:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately it does. Just by the presence of the Hureisenjin itself in the movie and the JBI are proof enought that the movie does have some anti-Japanese and anti-US sentiment. Ominae 17:11, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Whether the film is anti-Japanese/anti-American or not is not a fact but an opinion based on possible interpretations/impressions of some viewers. It's also original research without any outside sources. For these reasons, I've deleted the part in question. 18:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

That the film is anti-Japanese is pretty obvious, you'd have to be blind not to see that. The Japanese are portrayed as trigger-happy discriminatory bullies who keep Korea well subjugated. And it isn't just the typecasting of the Japanese, but also the plot: a Japanese changes the timeline to a situation that could be objectively better for everyone involved. But rather than playing on that, instead of talking and winning hearts the Japanese are shown to just shoot at everyone and sweep the secret under the rug. And turning the Japanese who should be the good guys given the alternate timeline into bad guys in order to nuke them (while sparing Berlin even though German was on the bad side in both timelines) is obviously A-okay according to the writers. All for Korea. (And the most unfortunate thing about this all is in my opinion that all this also made the plot very predictable.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I saw the movie and didn't get an anti-American bias from it at all. However, it is very Japanophobic, though. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 08:40, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


What about a plot?

I added a spoiler free plot.Bethereds 17:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedic entry. Plot summaries should be complete, whether they spoil the reader's experience is not a concern. Frankly, I wish someone could try to argument the spoiler-free plots in Wikipedia entries.


What I find very odd about the article is that the "Historical differences" section-- which simply describes how the fictional history in the film differs from actual history-- is tagged "OR", while the "Oddities" section-- a collection of unsourced personal observations, and veiled criticisms of the film, stands at all, let alone untagged... One would think these tags were being used at the whim of editors' own POVs... No, couldn't be...Dekkappai (talk) 16:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Question about timeline[edit]

The timeline purports to list differences, but only lists the fictional timeline. However as I gather the only two real differences are the two failed assassination attempts.

Now maybe the answer to the following question is obvious and my historical background knowledge is simply lacking in this area, but how did the prevented assassinations turn Japan and America into allies? I assume that somehow they made sure that Pearl Harbor never happened, but how? Were the two surviving samurai more pro-American or better strategists? Or was Inoue somehow able to convince everyone that he was from the future and that siding against the US would be a bad idea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:47, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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