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Johnny Valiant[edit]

He has received a lot of coverage, yet people keep removing him cause he’s apparently isn’t internationally notable. I disagree with them. JoeyRuss (talk) 10:57, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Johnny Valiant? Not internationally notable. Probably wouldn't meet the standards for 2018 in the United States. Perhaps 2018 in WWE or 2018 in television? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 14:44, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
"... in WWE" is not a subarticle of "... in sports", so I don't know exactly where yyyy in WWE should go. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 14:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Include clearly notable around the globe as evidenced by the coverage of his death on the various non-English articles about him. I'm not clear how anyone could argue otherwise. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
    So provide some articles. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:19, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
    Not a fan of wrestling at all but trivial to find some articles. Here one from Germany and some from the UK. There are certainly lots more from other places as well. As stupid as that stuff is(no offense to anyone who actually likes it), it is popular in many different countries. 91.97.252.254 (talk) 14:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
@Arthur Rubin: There's no such thing as 2018 in WWE on Wikipedia. However, there's a 2018 in professional wrestling. Just thought I might let you know so that in future you would know where to find these kind of articles. The Optimistic One (talk) 18:26, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

18/19[edit]

Hi,

I wonder if that wikipedia should indicate 2018 as the 19th year of the 21st century & 3rd millennium as 2000 is the 1st year & not 2001 138.75.150.238 (talk) 13:50, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Because nothing you wrote is correct. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 04:19, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
2000 is the last year (strictly) of the 20th century, read more at: Century. Iamthemostwanted2015 (talk) 19:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Scott Hutchison[edit]

"Not internationally notable" ... um ... Australia Variety Esquire Belgium Brazil PortugalMexico Ireland Canada San Francisco Billboard AOL ... etc etc Black Kite (talk) 11:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Seems like a clear include to me. agtx 20:39, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

TotalBiscuit[edit]

On the 2017 article it was agreed to add Youtube personality Angry Grandpa to the list of deaths as his real name (Charles Green) rather than as his Youtube identity (see HERE). This precedent indicates that TotalBiscuit should instead be credited as John Bain. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 18:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

National School Walkout Day[edit]

It was run by the Brady Bunch, and there were a number of students and teachers who opposed the walkout and were punished. This "spontaneous" protest was not very widespread. The March for Our Lives demonstrations were much more significant, although there were counter-protests there, as well. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 04:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Leslie Grantham[edit]

@Unknown artist:, this is at least the 2nd time you've done this in a month. You did it with Scott Hutchison as well. Boston, USA Sweden Portugal Slovakia I found those sources in 5 minutes. Seriously, you shouldn't be editing this page if you can't be bothered to actually look up sources. Stop it. Oh by the way here's some more USA Ireland Romania Black Kite (talk) 18:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Images[edit]

Danny Kirwan was an integral member of Fleetwood Mac, appearing on four of their studio albums and was a member of one of two line-ups generally considered to be their classic. He is the primary member responsible for the band moving away from their blues rock roots and along with Bob Welch and Christine McVie transitioned the band to a more soft rock direction - laying the groundwork for the Lindsey Buckingham/Stevie Nicks era stuff. Kirwan is a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee; his guitar work and role in the band has been acclaimed. At the very least given his merits Kirwan’s image is deserving to be put up on this page; certainly more so than a rapper who wasn’t all that well known outside of the unusual circumstances of his passing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thescrubbythug (talkcontribs) 19:59, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

My bad I thought you were changing it too XXX - I have to agree I would consider Danny to be more notable and more known than XXX..... –Davey2010Talk 20:12, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
I am agnostic in the Kirwan v. XXX thing. I switched them because I've noticed mini-edit wars about photo selections in these year articles for a long time, assumed this was one of them, and reverted it back to what it had been. Should there be guidelines as to which photos appear in the deaths sections of these articles? Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 22:44, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
There should be guidelines. However, there are editors who disagree, preventing guidelines as to which deaths should appear from being adopted. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:13, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but this has been going on for much longer than any change in the listing guidelines. Before then, it was between individuals who had met those criteria. I think it would be much more palatable to create guidelines as to who appears in the photographs than determining who actually gets listed here. Pretty much since the photos have been introduced into these articles, they've pretty much been included on the whim of whoever adds them. This has generally resorted in the over-appearance of entertainers (and to a lesser extent, politicians) in the photo selection over many other fields. Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 18:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Helsinki summit[edit]

What about 2018 Russia-United States summit in Helsinki?

Would agree that it needs to be in. 86.115.14.101 (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Japan floods[edit]

There are smaller disasters included in the article, so 2018 Japan floods too?

Turkish general election, 2018[edit]

I think Turkey has enough presence on the world stage for this to be included. Similarly for Egyptian presidential election, 2018. 172.58.67.244 (talk) 04:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Heat wave and drought[edit]

There is heat waves and droughts all over Northern hemisphere with forest fires and all. This article mentions only North America now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.193.159.170 (talk) 11:18, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

True. I thought the North American ones were mostly non-notable. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:05, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Ulhas Bapat[edit]

@Anonymous from the 21st century: Notable? There is a notability tag on the article, and I can see little that indicates notability in the article. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:44, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Robin Leach[edit]

Lately, Rich8605 has added Robin Leach to the death section three times in under twenty-four hours and I kept telling him that’s he not notable and then I gave him a warning for edit warring. So, should we keep Leach out? I know WP:RY is dead but I think this can lead to conclusion to see what others think rather than one person thinking on their own. Gar (talk) 00:52, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay. Gar (talk) 21:06, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Exclude — He had immense notability mainly in the world of pop culture for being the star attraction of the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, as well as being the subject of cultural references and cameos in film, reality, and game shows over the years when his showmanship days were over. He was known more exclusively to the English-speaking audience in the US and in regions of Europe and other small parts of the world that had distribution to subtitles to said television series, but nothing more. I'll change my vote if only more evident stuff are presented in this Talk page, but for now I'll stand for exclusion. —*riot_iori* ❰talk❱ 01:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Exclude. (Invited) Almost qualifies for WP:B..1E. Having obits in multiple countries doesn't mean he isn't known only for Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Neil Simon[edit]

What reason is there not to include a picture of America's leading comedy playwright?Radiohist (talk) 09:33, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Lack of space. Although it seems to fit now, I'd appreciate if you didn't engage in edit-warring and resolved the issue on the talk page before reverting the next time. Secondly, "fame" isn't the only criterion for including the picture. There are too many American entertainers (some of whom are largely unknown outside the USA) featured, causing severe imbalance. — Yerpo Eh? 09:45, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Neil Simon doesn't fit into the category of "some of whom are largely unknown outside the USA". His plays are performed throughout the European Union, Latin America, Asia....I think that qualifies him for a picture.Radiohist (talk) 09:49, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Yerpo "There are too many American entertainers" is your subjective opinion which doesn't make much sense in an encyclopedic environment. There are 51 pictures and 19 of them are American people. I see nothing wrong with that. Furthermore, I think Chuck McCann, who once had his picture in the 2018 section, was removed.Radiohist (talk) 09:53, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
American entertainers are grossly overrepresented on year pages. It may reflect tabloid coverage, but I dearly hope there's more to life than that. If that's subjective, so be it. But I would like to see one other encyclopedia where this problem is so acute. — Yerpo Eh? 14:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Yerpo Yours are the petty comments of someone who hates the theatrical profession and America. Please take your frustrations elsewhere. I think you are just taking out spite on a man who doesn't deserve it. Neil Simon's work is internationally known and praised. The fact that each one of his plays - The Odd Couple, Brighton Beach Memoirs, The Prisoner of Fifth Avenue, The Gingerbread Lady, Barefoot in the Park, The Sunshine Boys and The Cactus Flower - is being performed in 75 countries outside of America proves his success. American entertainers are just much more talented and relevant than entertainers from other countries.Radiohist (talk) 15:24, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Yerpo Out of the 19 pictures of American people (out of 51) only 7 (counting sports personality Sammartino) are of American entertainers. Your claims are completely unfounded and false.Radiohist (talk) 15:34, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Hohoho, now I hate America?! LOL! Sorry, but your ridiculous personal attacks are below the level of conversation expected on a Wikipedia talk page. Please take your empty pride elsewhere. — Yerpo Eh? 16:21, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
How can they be personal attacks, I don't even know you? But, yes, I did overreact a bit and I apologize. However, 19 Americans out of 51 and 7 of them entertainment figures - that's pretty reasonable.Radiohist (talk) 16:44, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm (surprisingly) with Yerpo here. This is "English language" Wikipedia, not "American" Wikipedia. So, having more than 1/3 as Americans is already too much. Perhaps suggest someone you could switch out. In the meantime, yes, stating that someone's comments as "petty" and who "hates" does constitute a personal attack here on Wikipedia, so pack it in. Having said all of that, your final note, American entertainers are just much more talented and relevant than entertainers from other countries. is probably just about all we need to read to understand where you're coming from. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
I apologized for my remarks. I shouldn't have overreacted. My words were not a personal attack in any way. No matter how different our opinions may be, they are still highly subjective. There are 51 pictures and only 19 of them are of American people. That doesn't constitute a problem or bias in any way. The users who have composed this list are doing are marvelous job. This discussion was started to see if there are any arguments whether Neil Simon (American by birth, World-Renowned by work) doesn't deserves his photo to be displayed. No arguments were given to defend that position. It's time to put an end to this discussion.Radiohist (talk) 18:44, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Americans comprise ~4% of the world’s population but are ~37% of those pictured here. That’s systemic bias, and that is a problem. -- irn (talk) 19:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Somebody can't count. America is the Third most populous country on Earth
This comprises 100.3% of the current state of this discussion - Wikipedia:Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass.Radiohist (talk) 19:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
  • On the space issue, it seems to render just fine on my laptop, but it may render differently on other laptops. I was going through the last few months and Big Van Vader is the person I would remove to preserve space for Simon. pbp 20:40, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Except that FYI Big Van Vader died on June and the subject we're talking about (Neil Simon) died on the month of August. The issue being that his portrait and that of Alexander Zakharchenko conflict with the room that is left on the month that we've just ended, being August. —*riot_iori* ❰talk❱ 01:21, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2018[edit]

Hello could you please add the Deaths of Murray Westgate,Nini Theilade,Benjamin Melniker,Maciej Maciejewski,Tatyana Karpova,Gertrude Jeanette,Anna Campori. ThatBaileyLad (talk) 18:24, 17 September 2018 (UTC)ThatBaileyLad ThatBaileyLad (talk) 18:24, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm feeling generous, so if you provide Wikilinks, I would might be willing to add some of them.... — Arthur Rubin (talk) 23:29, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

October images[edit]

With only space for one, it seems clear that Charles Aznavour is the choice over Scott Wilson (actor), although one could make a case for Đỗ Mười or Leon M. Lederman. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:17, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Lederman would be my choice, but we can put Aznavour there for now and add Lederman later in the month. — Yerpo Eh? 18:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Approximate priority order:
  1. Leon M. Lederman
  2. Charles Aznavour
  3. Paul Allen
  4. Do Muoi
  5. Scott Wilson
But I may have missed some. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:51, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Update: There's now room for one more. I've added Pau Allen for now as I think he's the most suitable. The Optimistic One (talk) 16:05, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Add[edit]

Pls add Daniel Correa Freitas who was murdered. Lior the swimmer (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

He murdered in 30 in october 2018 Lior the swimmer (talk) 06:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

30 october 2018 Lior the swimmer (talk) 06:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Daniel Correa Freitas appears not to have Wikipedia article, so, no. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:14, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
I guess he does. If the article shows signs of notability, it might be listed here, but the article does not say "murdered". — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

1st non-Korean StarCraft II world champion in 20 years[edit]

Possible addition for 4 Nov 2018? See e.g. Joona “Serral” Sotala has become the first non-Korean to win StarCraft 2's most prestigious tournament, the World Championship Series (WCS). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.115.14.101 (talk) 19:57, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps in 2018 in video gaming, not here. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:20, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Scott Wilson[edit]

Why is his picture not on here yet. He was an important actor to a lot of people Matt Campbell (talk) 14:59, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Thousand Oaks[edit]

Shouldn't the Thousand Oaks shooting and the California wildfires be on here?-Adame150 (talk) 18:39, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I think that's what 2018 in the United States is for. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for clarifying. --Adame150 (talk) 18:59, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
No worries. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)