Talk:2018 Kivu Ebola outbreak
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cases[edit]
did not put this initially but it seems far worse[1][2] will therefore wait to add to List of Ebola outbreaks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:48, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Done(have replaced w/ another chart, may place back)
- @Ozzie10aaaa: I'm curious, why did you add the old chart back ? The new one has the same info and then some. Tenthkrige (talk) 08:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- if you look here during the West Africa outbreak West_African_Ebola_virus_epidemic_timeline_of_reported_cases_and_deaths we did several graphs, perhaps a 'log' graph is better?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- If I can assume that many readers may look at both articles, I suggest that the same format is used for both, whether normal or logarithmic. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- yes, good idea--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- If I can assume that many readers may look at both articles, I suggest that the same format is used for both, whether normal or logarithmic. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- if you look here during the West Africa outbreak West_African_Ebola_virus_epidemic_timeline_of_reported_cases_and_deaths we did several graphs, perhaps a 'log' graph is better?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- may need to redo graph as cases expected to increase even more--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:12, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- I suggest that one graph - e.g. 2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak cases and deaths graph v1.png - is sufficient, and it could be incorporated when WHO releases information that updates this graph. Dont need two graphs that have conflicting data; there is sufficient information throughout to inform that this outbreak is ongoing, and therefore information will change over time. Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:02, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- you may be right, lets see how the numbers come out of DRC(cases/deaths to make a final decision)...IMO--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:11, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- odd Uganda still hasn't had a case?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:18, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Name[edit]
I'm not sure that this is the best name (the "Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo" part seems grammatically weird), but I don't know what would be better. Natureium (talk) 22:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
DoneNatureium yes your right, I went back and forth on a name, however 1. it needs to say ebola virus outbreak, 2. it should say the country's name, however Im open to any alternative, it is rather long--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- if the cases move into Rwanda and/or Uganda it should be moved to 2018 Central African Ebola virus outbreak...IMO(should it reach epidemic status then itll be added to List of epidemics)
- Ministry of Health DRC twitter
- WHO AFRO Outbreaks and Other Emergencies(Spiralling violence puts millions at risk in Ebola-hit eastern DRC)
- sitrep
- promed
- reliefweb
- + 5 add'l ebola term
- Does the addition of a sentence about Ituri Province - i.e. now in addition to rather than instead of the refn note - mean this same information is now duplicated? It looks better from my perspective to have this additional sentence instead of the refn. Why is the refn note now necessary? Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:53, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- IMO due to the article title 2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak readers might get the impression its only N. Kivu, that's the reason the note is right next to the title and the reader can see it in the 'notes' next to the references(looking ahead, if any case(s) springs up in Uganda, the title would have to be moved, as I indicated above to Natureium )...should you feel strongly about it then revert, but it seems better this way--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:21, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully it does not spread any further geographically. Matilda Maniac (talk) 01:17, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- border w/ Uganda--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:57, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully it does not spread any further geographically. Matilda Maniac (talk) 01:17, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- IMO due to the article title 2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak readers might get the impression its only N. Kivu, that's the reason the note is right next to the title and the reader can see it in the 'notes' next to the references(looking ahead, if any case(s) springs up in Uganda, the title would have to be moved, as I indicated above to Natureium )...should you feel strongly about it then revert, but it seems better this way--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:21, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Graphs(update)[edit]
You might want to update your graphs, to show that the outbreak was slowing down, but recently it has gotten worse fast, according to your statistics. Art LaPella (talk) 18:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- yes,its getting ugly[3]... Ive been thinking about that(though it may take me some time), thank you Art--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- In my opinion, one single graph is sufficient (the most readable format is that of 2018_Kivu_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo_Ebola_virus_outbreak_cases_and_deaths_graph_v1.png), rather than a combination of 3 graphs in the article with different data sources (2D line/bar, 3D line and 3D bar graphs). 3 graphs does not make sense especially where the data is not common. If one of these graphs is going to be produced/collated off other available data - and not be considered as original research - then a collation off the table of Timeline of reported cases and deaths would seem to be the easiest to maintain (as the data is static and referenced at a particular date). Matilda Maniac (talk) 02:55, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- well bar graphs and line graphs are different and the reader gets more information. As to the graph at the bottom that one shows each individual outbreak(since 1976) in DRC versus the 'growing' new one(hence, a very different graph)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:32, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I think one single graph is best for this article. The less "decorative" the better: we don't need 3D effects to see the information conveyed by the data. A graph that combines the statistics for all the epidemics to date into one chart would certainly be a good idea in a subsection at the Ebola virus disease page, and perhaps we could link to that from each of these graphs' captions. -- The Anome (talk) 12:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- in that case ill remove the two upper graphs until we can update them--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:25, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- In my opinion, one single graph is sufficient (the most readable format is that of 2018_Kivu_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo_Ebola_virus_outbreak_cases_and_deaths_graph_v1.png), rather than a combination of 3 graphs in the article with different data sources (2D line/bar, 3D line and 3D bar graphs). 3 graphs does not make sense especially where the data is not common. If one of these graphs is going to be produced/collated off other available data - and not be considered as original research - then a collation off the table of Timeline of reported cases and deaths would seem to be the easiest to maintain (as the data is static and referenced at a particular date). Matilda Maniac (talk) 02:55, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- I think you are missing the point by saying .... until we can update them. The view is to have a single graph, not 3 graphs updated with similar data in different formats. The main contributors to any article should also realize that they do not 'own' the article, and other opinions and formats exist that don't require routing reverting to maintain their editorial view. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- please try to understand there have been other EVD outbreaks and that needs a graph separate from the ongoing outbreak, here you can read more about this information to be better able to undertand[4]does not take long to read/comprehend, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- I think you are missing the point by saying .... until we can update them. The view is to have a single graph, not 3 graphs updated with similar data in different formats. The main contributors to any article should also realize that they do not 'own' the article, and other opinions and formats exist that don't require routing reverting to maintain their editorial view. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hence comments were about three graphs (two of which you have now hopefully permanently removed) and not four. Perhaps the graph with other EVD outbreaks belongs somewhere else in the article for better effect/impact ? Matilda Maniac (talk)
Note:ive left a further comment on The Anome page[5] thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:15, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Ozzie10aaaa: The format was far better before your near instant REVERT. You are behaving as if you own the article. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:05, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- if you can find consensus for that change, I do not agree w/ it, youll need to ask other editors who have contributed to this article,thank you(additionally, would refer you to my prior answer above)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Ozzie10aaaa: The format was far better before your near instant REVERT. You are behaving as if you own the article. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:05, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hence comments were about three graphs (two of which you have now hopefully permanently removed) and not four. Perhaps the graph with other EVD outbreaks belongs somewhere else in the article for better effect/impact ? Matilda Maniac (talk)
increasing numbers[edit]
- should other countries become involved the graphs will need to be changed again(at its current pace [5]it looks to pass Uganda/425 total case, or only behind WA)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:27, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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1sitwas invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ "EBOLA RDC - Evolution de la riposte contre l'épidémie d'Ebola dans la province du Nord Kivu au Jeudi 13 septembre 2018". mailchi.mp. Retrieved 13 September 2018.
- ^ "EBOLA RDC - Evolution de la riposte contre l'épidémie d'Ebola dans les provinces du Nord Kivu et de l'Ituri au Dimanche 4 novembre 2018". us13.campaign-archive.com. Retrieved 4 November 2018.
Requested move 13 November 2018[edit]
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The result of the move request was: Not Moved per WP:SNOW. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:36, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
| It was proposed in this section that 2018 Kivu Ebola outbreak be renamed and moved to 2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo ebola virus outbreak.
The discussion has been closed. |
2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak → 2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo ebola virus outbreak – per Zaire ebolavirus, ebola itself is decapped. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:10, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose: The current article name is correct: Ebola virus is the correct name for the EBOV virus itself, which is what is being referred to here. The fact that Ebola virus is the single member of Zaire ebolavirus, which is in turn one of the five species within the genus Ebolavirus, is highly confusing, but "Ebola virus" it is. -- The Anome (talk) 10:22, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- oppose and agree 100% w/ The Anome--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:10, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The word "Ebola" by itself is capitalized as a proper noun because it's named after the Ebola River. The rules for capitalizing viruses follow a more scientific naming system, but not "Ebola" by itself. Art LaPella (talk) 13:54, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose: I agree with The Anome, the capitalization of the term "Ebola" is accurate. Anonymuss User (talk) 14:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- comment maybe WP:SNOWBALL--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose: I agree with The Anome too. "Ebola virus" is the correct way to spell it, not "ebola virus". TheSmartPersonUS1 (talk) 00:05, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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Requested move 14 November 2018[edit]
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The result of the move request was: Moved --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 03:23, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
| The request to rename this article to 2018 Kivu Ebola outbreak has been carried out. |
2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak → 2018 Kivu Ebola outbreak – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Inowen (nlfte) 07:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC) The name "Kivu" is unique enough and not ambiguous, and a simple title is easier to type and find. PS:Also make 2018 DRC ebola outbreak a redirect.-Inowen (nlfte) 07:47, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
oppose it may not be a bad idea(the title is long) however will readers look for DRC (Democratic Republic of the Congo) or Kivu, the 'media' rarely call it Kivu?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:16, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- There is a 2017 Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak. So similar title may work. Qualitist (talk) 20:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- it could, but keep in mind we just had another outbreak 2018 Équateur province Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak ,lets wait for more opinions...--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:13, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- There is a 2017 Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak. So similar title may work. Qualitist (talk) 20:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support as better title. Qualitist (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support the current title is ridiculously long and Kivu does not require disambiguation, as is evidenced by its article. Brycehughes (talk) 01:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- would support at the very least it needs to have virus included ….2018 Kivu Ebola virus outbreak--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Agree. Brycehughes (talk) 18:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support with modification as above 2018 Kivu Ebola virus outbreak is simple, correct, and easy to understand. -- The Anome (talk) 13:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support with modification as above Nice, Clean and simple. Geartooth Friendship is Magic! 13:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- The term "Ebola" is often used as short form for "Ebola virus disease" Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:55, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps Ebola would suffice then. I'm happy either way. Brycehughes (talk) 00:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- I agree. Simple "Ebola" is more common. Qualitist (talk) 00:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- looking at all comments I'll agree(however, bear in mind this could be short lived as Uganda is on high alert[7], any case there would warrant another move)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think if we take Wikipedia precedent, for what it's worth (I know, I know...), in that Kivu requires no disambiguation and Ebola is a redirect to Ebola virus disease, the original move request is probably fine and should perhaps be applied to others of its ilk as well. Brycehughes (talk) 01:28, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- looking at all comments I'll agree(however, bear in mind this could be short lived as Uganda is on high alert[7], any case there would warrant another move)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
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