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Around the World 4-H and related programs exist in over 80 countries around the world. These programs operate independently, as there is no international 4-H organization. However, through international exchanges, global education programs, and communications, they share a common bond in 4-H

Article should say what 4-H stands for[edit]

Article should say what 4-H stands for. Please also add an explanation of what an O-Rama is.

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Yes, go ahead and make a change and see how fast it gets reverted by someone who has no clue what they are talking about - 4H would appear to be a fairly safe topic though, so perhaps it won't be so vicious. Jmdeur (talk) 14:08, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

4-h stands for Head, hart,hands and health 71.184.19.7 (talk) 23:53, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

4-H Camping program[edit]

I think the article should mention the camping program. The camping program was started as a reward for those members who completed their project record books. People I have interviewed in North Carolina remember bringing their own food with them: live chikens, fresh fruit and vegetables right from the farm, etc. The camping program has now changed to a place where children can "learn by doing" but don't have to be members of a club.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Luv hikin (talkcontribs) 16:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

State programs section should be removed.[edit]

Content preserved here. Removed b/c "Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files" (see WP:NOT).

Soviet Union[edit]

There apparently were 4-H organizations of some kind in the Soviet Union. I read an article in National Geographic in the late 1970s or early 1980s about an exchange, with some Americans going to the Soviet Union and working at farms there, meeting the people who worked on the farms, learning about how these industrial farms operated, surprising their hosts with how American farms worked (working from dawn til dusk instead of regulated hours), and being stuffed with food at generous farm dining tables! It was a fascinating article. GBC 22:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Gold Star Awards[edit]

Being a Texas only award, does this really belong in this article? If it does, should the Key Award (Kansas) be added? JavaPenguin 19:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


It looks nearly identical to the All-Star Award in some states. As a side note, it doesn't look like there's any reference in the article to the Gold Star. Compare Texas Gold Star requirements to Virginia All-Star requirements - they are at least close enough to be considered under the same heading. Hampshire2004 04:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

AG project?[edit]

I have proposed a WikiProject Agriculture at: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Agriculture. Anyone interested should comment or sign up there. Thanks.--Doug.(talk contribs) 03:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

American spellings?[edit]

As the article is about 4-H in the United States, should the spelling be American (colors instead of colours)? I see where it has been changed back and forth in the past, so I though I would bring this up for the community to discuss. JavaPenguin (talk) 08:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox?[edit]

Could someone create an infobox for this article, using template:infobox organization. I would, but I know nothing on the subject. StevePrutz (talk) 04:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Canada[edit]

4-H is also in Canada. Stating that it's US-only is misleading. I don't know enough about the programme in Canada to edit the article accurately though. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:52, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Around the World[edit]

4-H and related programs exist in over 80 countries around the world

shouldn't there be a list of at least some of those countries? I searched the web and I found that there 4h clubs in these countries: Argentina Australia Austria Bahamas Barbados Belgium Botswana Cameroon Canada Colombia Costa Rica Czech Republic Denmark Ecuador England Egypt Estonia Finland Germany Greece Grenada Haiti Hong Kong Hungary Ireland Italy Jamaica Japan Netherlands New Zealand Nigeria Norway Panama Paraguay Philippines Poland Romania Russia Scotland Spain Slovakia South Korea Sweden Switzerland Taiwan Thailand Ukraine U.S. Wales (about 50) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.83.52 (talk) 14:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Sewing patterns[edit]

There you can find some sewing patterns for 4-H uniforms in the 1950s-1960s Sicilarch (talk) 08:19, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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New book based on archival research[edit]

Noticed a new book related to 4-H: "A cultural and political history of the rural youth program" according to the Chronicle weekly book list. Claims (per publisher) to be "first comprehensive history of the organization"; University of Georgia editorial review calls it the "first in-depth study" (as viewed on Amazon); apparently "bio-political" (per Yale editorial review). Maybe useful for (had added to the article; adding this here since that was reverted). Perhaps useful if someone wants to read it to add appropriate material to the article: The 4-H Harvest: Sexuality and the State in Rural America by Gabriel N. Rosenberg, 2015, University of Pennsylvania Press Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 12:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Basically, each could be used to further footnote and expand this article. Just slapping stuff into external links or a further reading list is lazy. Montanabw(talk) 10:54, 29 November 2015 (UTC)