Talk:45 Grave

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POV problems, fix it or I will, and believe me I can be cut happy.-- 07:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Sleep in Safety[edit]

How about a new page about the album? It just needs a track listing and a bit of background. I don't know how to make a new page though. Anyone else share this view? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Just added a page for Sleep In Safety -- Phaeno —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phaeno (talkcontribs) 16:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


Sorry to bring this up so early in the development of the page but...

The three genres there at the mo (punk rock, deathrock, horror punk) are all correct but I think deathrock should go at the top as they are a punk/goth band and deathrock is esentially a combination term for both of these. Also 45 Grave are, according to the page on deathrock, one of only two bands generally referred to as deathrock (the other being Christian Death). So it should be their primary genre.

Also, I don't think there's any need for there to be punk rock as a genre as the other genres, deathrock and horror punk, are both subgenres of punk anyway.

So I'll make these changes, feel free to change them back but please say why here. - A Fan of 45 Grave (talk) 20:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


Sorry, but I have to chuckle at the idea of assigning a genre to 45 Grave. Besides the variety of styles on their released albums, I've had the privilege of attending several advance previews of the next E.P., and Dinah tells everyone she previews it to, "let's see them try and assign me to a genre, NOW!"

It even includes an original country/western song.

If *I* had to slap a label on 45 Grave I'd note that they're an important part of the D.I.Y. movement.

I have NOT edited the article, however. I hesitate (except in the case of blatant mistakes, falsehoods, or violations of a non-celebrity's privacy) to edit pages where I am not a neutral party. (I've had a financial stake in the band in the past and will likely have one in the future, if I get the opportunity). I'm just offering some perspective to editors of the article. Roger Midnight (talk) 16:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


I just cut this out of the article, it was just stuck there. Im not sure what it really has to do with 45 Grave as a band, and no one was saying Graves and Graves were the same guy anyway. Obv. ive kept it here in the discussion page for any future reference or possible itergration into the article.

It was once rumoured that Rob(Ritter)Graves of 45 GRAVE and Rob Graves of RIPPER were the same person...Not true! Rob Graves of RIPPER semi-retired from music in 1991 around the same time Rob Ritter of 45 GRAVE passed away, and it was there that the false connection between the two was made. Upon hearing the news of Ritter's passing, Rob Graves of RIPPER said: "That dude was a legend, and left us entirely too early. He'll definitely be missed!


I'm dropping my suggestion (2 years and 3 days ago) that keyboards use be referred to in the past tense, because the album released yesterday has... keyboards.Roger Midnight (talk)

Real vs. Stage Names[edit]

Rob Graves, (his stage name) is referred to as "Rob Ritter (also known as Rob Graves...)", while no clarification is made for Dinah Cancer which is the stage name of Mary Sims. This seems inconsistent to me. Since I don't know Wikipedia's official policy in this regard, I have not made any changes, but bring this up as a possible edit for clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC) I think one probable important fact is that Ritter publicly went by both Ritter (with Gun Club, as on their LPs) and Graves (with 45 Grave). Dinah Cancer has never used "Mary Sims" professionally or on any release.Greg Fasolino (talk) 02:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)