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Picture Update?[edit]

When was the last time the picture updated? It doesn't look like it was recently (2009?) and the archive of the talk pages show 2010. Is there a reason that it hasn't been updated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tedjam (talkcontribs) 20:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

The details for the image say that the screen shot in the infobox is from 2009.[1] Despite the age, it is still an accurate version of how the current main page looks (August 2015 screen shot here). There is no immediate need to change the infobox image.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:21, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Re this edit: it is unclear whether the image of the space shuttle is intended to be a permanent feature of the main page, although it has been there for a couple of weeks now. This is the first significant change to the 4chan main page for a long time.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
The space shuttle is now accompanied by a cat.[2] This has been around for a while, but I'm not going to change the infobox image as yet.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
The cat used on the current main page of 4chan is taken from this image, sometimes called "stretchy cat". It has Japanese text in the background, so maybe it comes from Japan. Unfortunately, I can't find out much more about this image. Any help is welcome.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 19:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
@Ianmacm: Longcat. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, this image is fairly well known. It might be worth mentioning in the article, although some people don't like using sources such as knowyourmeme and Urban Dictionary as they are user generated.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
If we get started including discussion of images that gain popularity on 4chan, things would spiral out of control :) Also, it looks like this one actually originated on 2chan. If there are sufficient sources, I'd say just create a separate article or include it at List of Internet phenomena. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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Reference source: Reference source statements: "He says he’s been posting in /pol/, the 4chan and 8chan’s anarchic, often right-leaning “Politically Incorrect” boards, for years. But his decision to get more actively involved with the alt right came this summer “when the cuckservative meme became big and the Alt Right started to explode.”" "The tragedy of the situation, if you can call it that, is that UTR and his alt right pals are fighting a war that only exists in their heads and /pol/ threads." Requested statement to add into article on /pol/: Members of the alt-right particularly use the /pol/ of image boards such as 4chan and 8chan.

One person (referred to in the article as "the creator of Uncuck the Right") is not "members" (plural). That's misrepresentation of a source. It's also an unreliable source. Sundayclose (talk) 02:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

::No, it's not misrepresentation because it mentioned that the alt-right uses /pol/. How is it unreliable? Connor Machiavelli (talk) 03:00, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

How is one person considered "members" (plural). Explain that or drop this topic. Sundayclose (talk) 03:10, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

::::I didn't mean anything illogical, like one person being considered multiple, but rather something else which is similar in meaning. I was referring to how the source said the popular alt-right movement adherent, UTR, is a big poster on /pol/, and how it mentions "alt-right pals" are also on /pol/ with him, he's a big figure in the alt-right, and logically this means the requested statement is true, so it should be included for the article in the /pol/ section here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Connor Machiavelli (talkcontribs) 03:17, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

One person is not "members". Stop refusing to get the point. Don't misrepresent the source. Move on. This is my last post on this topic. Sundayclose (talk) 03:21, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

::::::I never said or did that. Connor Machiavelli (talk) 03:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

There seems to be something of an obsession with adding this, even if it involves misrepresenting the sourcing. The source says "He says he’s been posting in /pol/, the 4chan and 8chan’s anarchic, often right-leaning “Politically Incorrect” boards, for years." This is one person, and cannot be used to infer a general case. So it has been rightly reverted again.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
And of course it violates WP:UNDUE. When multiple reliable sources back this it might be time to use it, but not now. Doug Weller talk 12:10, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

:::I can agree with Doug Weller on that. The other quote said my point anyways. On inference from the first quote, you can infer from a big figure in the alt-right being at the /pol/ on imageboards that others in the alt-right would be there, since /pol/ is what they're all about, and /pol/ is a highly popular board, the alt-right being politically incorrect is backed up by everything out there on the alt-right. At least, it's a very high probability that they'd be there, and there particularly on those boards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Connor Machiavelli (talkcontribs) 15:04, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

A high probability does not indicate proof. If the source does not directly mention the fact that there is a population of the alt-right on /pol/, then it doesn't support it, regardless of the actual situation one observes on /pol/ (which would be original research). Alcherin (talk) 15:07, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

:::::Read the source. Connor Machiavelli (talk) 15:11, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

It is a passing reference to one person's online activities and comes nowhere near satisfying WP:DUE. Why is this all so important for this article?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:20, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

:::::::Because /pol/ is full of the alt-right. And the other quote about his "alt-right pals" being on there with him? Connor Machiavelli (talk) 15:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

This is hard to prove, because it is generally difficult to know who posted anything on 4chan. The site is anarchic, loosely moderated and allows anonymous posts. Linking 4chan posts to a real world identity is less than an exact science, probably even less so than linking Wikipedia user names to a real life identity. 4channers rarely say things like "Hi, I'm John Smith of alt-right". 4chan does have a tendency to bias towards right wing viewpoints (some people would say that this is putting it mildly) but the alt-right connection still has problems with WP:DUE.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:32, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
I looked carefully and there does not seem to be reliable sources to make this point. I think, in terms of original research, you are probably correct, but reliable sources have not connected the alt-right and /pol/ yet. The closest is some sources that connect the alt-right with cuckservative, and some other sources that connect cuckservative with /pol/. However, that's synthesis, so I think we should we wait on this point for the time being. Denarivs (talk) 02:29, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
Connor Machiavelli turned out to be a sockpuppet, so I've struck through his edits. Doug Weller talk 14:47, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Gamergate Section[edit]

The Gamergate section states that the allegations against Zoe Quinn are false. This needs to be fixed — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

The citation is from a rather dubious source too. The larger problem however, has been the successful recasting of the story by Gawker and it's media allies. Twisting it from one of popular protests against blatant journalistic malfeasance and industry collusion, into some sort of anti-feminist outburst. It's hard to get proper cites, when the miscreants hold all the microphones. 2001:56A:F567:3700:9C8D:A804:4210:CC48 (talk) 06:00, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2016[edit]

Can somebody add the Start date and age template from the current "October 1, 2003" to {start date and age|2003|10|1} to correspond to 4chan's official launch date?

"On July 26, 2009, AT&T's DSL branch temporarily blocked access to the domain (host of /b/ and /r9k/), which was initially believed to be an attempt at Internet censorship, and met with hostility on 4chan's part" is not a host for any board on 4chan. is the new unified host. The sentence should reflect is the former host.

please fix this and HEIL TRUMP (talk) 12:08, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Datbubblegumdoe[talkcontribs] 13:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Longcat retired?[edit]

Longcat and the space shuttle have been on the 4chan main page continuously since last December, but in the past few days have been replaced by different images, eg here. I'm not sure if the infobox image needs updating, but was never convinced that the space shuttle and cat were intended to be permanent features of the main page.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)