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- 1 Archived AfD debate
- 2 Opinion?
- 3 Regarding Derick Mough and his social security number
- 4 Jenny Boylan?
- 5 Referenced in Stephen Lynch Song
- 6 9035-768
- 7 Additional Sightings
- 8 MMORPG Everquest trivia
- 9 Reason?
- 10 Other Theories about this number?
- 11 8675309 is prime
- 12 number removed
- 13 Alex Call
- 14 Beatles???
- 15 This song was a single
- 16 Recent news item on the number controversy v/v plumbing
- 17 Richard J. Reynolds High School Claim
- 18 Pop culture?
- 19 Removed sentence
- 20 Beverly Hills
- 21 not a reliable source
- 22 Citing Associated Press stories
- 23 Removed sentence about someone who once sued someone
- 24 Commercial uses
- 25 Sample
- 26 Article name
- 27 Cover by blink-182?
- 28 Move Me
- 29 Blanking
- 30 xkcd reference
- 31 WebTV
Archived AfD debate
At the time of this post, the article says: "Although Tommy Tutone is primarily remembered for this song and commonly considered a "one-hit wonder", they actually had a Billboard Top 40 hit in 1980—two years before "Jenny" with "Angel Say No", which peaked at #38. "Angel Say No", however, is now almost completely forgotten by the general public."
Besides being a dubious entry this statement seems to be an invasion of provacy of sorts. Especially considering that the town and state is provided, and since 867 is not a current Social Security prefix, one could presumably complete this person's entire Social Security number by adding the prefix to 867-5309. Of course this assumes that he was born in Ohio. Still, I think this is a dubious entry and does it really add vaule to the article?
"It is often said that[weasel words] the phone number 867-5309 was that of an apartment building in State College, Pennsylvania, home of Penn State University."
So I looked up the area code for State College, PA and then did a Google search for 814-867-5309, and, lo and behold, there's a listing for:
Jennifer Boylan (814) 867-5309 1006 S Pugh St, State College, PA 16801
Referenced in Stephen Lynch Song
The number is mentioned in Stephen Lynch's song "Kill A Kitten", sometimes just called "Kitten". The song can be hear here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOfb9XgYlk4&feature=related The reference is right at the end. You decide if you want to add it or not, I just thought it nice to tell you about the reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 21:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
How often do people reverse Jenny's phone number? Did they ever discontinue use of the reversed version of Jenny's phone number in all area codes? I becha there are dimwits that might reverse a phone number they see or hear. If the reversed version Jenny's phone number was discontinued, mention it in the article. --SuperDude 03:50, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
- You could possibly reach a satanic Jenny. --User:Dotto 00:37 14 Oct 2005 UTC
-lol Possibly satans girlfriend?126.96.36.199 03:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
In 1981, +1-areacode-903-5768 would not have been valid in most areas because a 0 or 1 in the second digit was reserved for area codes, while local exchanges could *not* have 0 or 1 in either of the first two digits. This was done so that calling a number like 1-234-5678 would actually reach (long distance) +1-your own area code-234-5678, something which was completely broken by issuing area codes with "wrong" middle digits from 1995 onward. In a few places which were short of numbers, this pattern was broken early (just for calls within that area code) by allowing 0 or 1 into the second digit of the local exchange (NYC and Chicago likely as early as the 1970's) but these were relatively rare. (A long-distance call from a +1-212- number to another in the same area code was too rare for this to matter as the code doesn't even reach to Brooklyn). The B52s had 606-0842 in a song title in the early 1980's, but in most places in North America that was an invalid number as it would be taken as area code 606 (eastern Kentucky) followed by 084-2xxx as an invalid local number (leading zero, and three digits too short). The number might exist now, but nobody cares as the corresponding vinyl album track was forgotten after only brief note three decades ago. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 03:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
The number was also listed in, of all games, MDK2, where it was a sector on Earth containing Edmonton which was being attacked by a crawler. Does this merit inclusion?
It's in Splinter Cell, too!Is is Is 11:56, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
This is the trivia in question:
- In the MMORPG Everquest, players can obtain an item named "Jenniy's Two-tone Cuirass" from the zone boss Grieg Veneficus. This item is a breastplate, and grants the wearer 8 strength, 6 dexterity, 7 stamina, 5 charisma, 30 wisdom, and 9 intelligence, among other benefits.
I think it ought to be taken out. —Cleared as filed. 03:23, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Glad to see this piece of information survived, as a reformed 4 year EQ player it made the article for me. I never knew / noticed that. Little things like that are what make wiki wonderful. 184.108.40.206 03:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
One explanation I've read, that makes the most sense to me, is that it's simply the diagonals on a touch-tone phone. 86-753-09 form three diagonal lines Nik42 04:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Other Theories about this number?
I believe that there is some more infomation about this number out there, especially about claims to its origin. Anybody have some suggestions? lykoped 21:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
8675309 is prime
Is it of any interest that the number 8675309 is prime? 220.127.116.11 17:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
That's been known for a long time. lykoped 18:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- Who cares? 911 is prime as well. Do we list that for 9-1-1? This article is about a song whose title includes a phone number and associated problems with the phone number 867-5309. In math, 867-5309= -4442. Should we list that as well? Do we actually need x is a prime number on every page that has numbers on it? Maybe if the song was titled "8,675,309 Is Not A Prime Number" you could add the fact that it actually is. -- 18.104.22.168 19:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- I checked and 55 out of the 1000 possible numbers from 8675000 to 8675999 are prime numbers. So with about a 5.5% chance of a number in this range being a prime, looks like it's really not a noteworthy coincidence. Unless of course there is any evidence to suggest that this number was chosen because it was a prime. mmj (talk) 14:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
A listing of a telephone number is removed here . That anon has been on IRC #stewards about it. That person says that "he" is not "Jamie" . And he finds it not funny that people keep telephoning him. On a normaly day 50 a 100 a daybut now it was up to 1500 calls a day he says. That can not be funny. I would like to request to keep that number of the article. --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 00:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I am this user, I receieved a total of 1858 confirmed wikipedia related phone calls. I've asked that this number please not be reposted. --Somitho 17:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
That's an odd coincidence that one of the members of the song's name is Alex 'Call'. 22.214.171.124 22:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Having listened to the intro to Sgt. Pepper's several times, I can find no discernible similarity between it and Tommy Tutone's 80's wonder. Unless anyone can tell me more specifically where to look or defeat me using more sophisticated methodology, I suggest that this point be taken down as a) not true and b) original research. Mjl0509 18:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
The last riff that leads "Sgt' Pepper" to "With a Little Help From My Friends" is pretty much the same... Also, it's very similar to the B-52's song "6060-842." Codackussell 07:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
This song was a single
Of course this was a single. I owned it. The catalog # is Columbia Records 02646 and the B-side was "Not Say Goodbye". It hit the top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100. It would never have charted at the time unless it was released as a single. Unless any objections or other reason given, I'm changing the infobox to single from song. - eo 19:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Recent news item on the number controversy v/v plumbing
- I've added a section about the litigation. The news stories aren't clear, but my guess is that the decision in Gem's favor came on a motion for a preliminary injunction. If so, there will probably be further litigation in the District Court. I'll try to remember to look for a published decision so that our article can be more specific. JamesMLane t c 01:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Richard J. Reynolds High School Claim
I am removing the claim that (336)867-5309 was the phone number for Richard J. Reynolds High School when the song was released. In the North American Numbering Plan, the middle digit of all area codes was a 0 or a 1 until the year 1995. Hence it is impossible for the area code 336 to have existed in 1982.
- The 336 area code came into being in 1997. In 1982, Winston-Salem (where RJRHS is located) was part of the 919 area code. It moved to area code 910 in 1993 and to 336 four years later. Jsc1973 (talk) 01:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Should pop culture references to the number be mentioned? Just wondering... soldierx40k 04:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps extremely important ones, but I recently deleted the "popular culture references" sections becuse it was long, unsourced, and full of useless trivia, which is discouraged under policy. RyanGerbil10(C-Town) 00:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I removed the paragraph, "The band and label eventually changed their story as to the number's origins, claiming it to be a random number that the songwriters came up with." from the end of the section. There is no indication of any other story of the origin, so saying that the story changed is pointless if not confusing. -Freekee (talk) 06:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
When one calls Beverly Hills (310) 867-5309 a male voice says something like: "Jenny is not here but Jack is to leave a message for Jenny..." when he finishes talking the voice mail providers voice states that the mailbox is full. Dreammaker182 (talk) 04:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
not a reliable source
the following has been removed from the article because personal web pages are not reliable sources and unsourced or poorly sourced material can be challenged and removed from the article. Find a reliable source to back this statement and it can go back in. -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:33, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- In December 2004, a New Jersey high school student called all the 867-5309s in every area code within North America and found that nearly all the numbers were not in service. A handful of the numbers did refer to Jenny, however, and some even played bits of the song on their answering machine greeting.
Citing Associated Press stories
The article cites the telemarketer story at http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0308/502851.html to Associated Press, which is correct because it's an AP story. But, I can understand also wanting to have the actual publication name in which the story appeared in the cite. Looking around at a few articles, it seems like there are a number of articles that do it like it's currently done here -- cite the story just to AP. Thoughts? Johnsu01 (talk) 20:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see an AP byline on the page, am I missing it somewhere? -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- No AP dateline, but near the bottom it reads "© 2008 The Associated Press." I originally added this cite, to a clearly-slugged AP story. At some point, that link rotted, and someone substituted the WJLA link. It's not clear to me whether the story on the WJLA story is the same story, or an AP story. TJRC (talk) 00:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Removed sentence about someone who once sued someone
Removed the following anecdote:
One woman once sued because of prank calls she received. During litigation, the attorney for the defense claimed the number in the song was the non-existant 6 digit telephone number 867-530 followed by the exclamation "oh!".
A woman of unknown identity sued someone of unknown identity, on some unknown date, for an unknown number of prank calls, with no reference to another source of this information, and it was all based somehow on this song. There's no way anybody else could ever research such a vague claim. mmj (talk) 14:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
A company (a plumbing or flooring company, I think) in the north Dallas area used the phone number as their own (area code 214, I think), and even used the Tommy Tutone song in their TV advertisements. I haven't heard the ad in many months, though, so I'm not sure if it's still in use. A Google search still turns up lots of hits for that number in that area code alone. — Loadmaster (talk) 15:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
There also used to be a web site called something like "Where's Jenny?" that listed all known active 867-5309 numbers in all U.S. area codes, but I can't seem to find the site any more. — Loadmaster (talk) 15:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I moved it back to its original location, as the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 110#En-dashes in phone numbers seemed to be leading this way. I had a box displaying in the title of the Firefox window, so the previous name was definitely broken. No reason not to leave the figure dash in the text of the article, of course.
Blink-182 has been removed. I checked everywhere on the internet and even their doscographies and there is no record of them covering this song. Since it was unsourced, it was removed. I guess that it was just someone that wanted to try a test edit.
Article has been blanked and vandalised. I have not been able to get a revert to take, so I have blanked the vandalism. I will ask another user to attempt to revert to the last constructive edit. katherine_a (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC).
Does anyone think this reference  to the web comic xkcd (which I adore) should stay? It was added by an anonymous editor, and after being deleted was re-added by a newly registered editor who I suspect is the same individual.
Yes, the "pop culture" section is already a god-awful mess, but shouldn't we be striving to clean it up rather than to proliferate "interesting trivia" as the contributor puts it?
I recall the Microsoft WebTV thin client set-top boxes would call home to Microsoft for updated firmware if you shut the box off and then punched 8675309 into the keypad. There are likely also instances where the number is used in documentation, example.org-style, on the presumption that it already gets so many misdirected calls that it is not a usable number. Should these be mentioned? 126.96.36.199 (talk) 04:30, 21 July 2012 (UTC)