Talk:A.1. Sauce

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Gilbert Heublein[edit]

Apparently, Gilbert Heublein (List of people by name: Hes-Hez#Hes-Heu) of Heublein hotel & liquors & Heublein Tower, introduced it to the U.S.; may be worth mention after research, especially since IIRC some sites make him sound like its inventor. --Jerzy•t 15:24, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

De-tagging[edit]

I've re-jigged and de-tagged this article and included an ownership trail. Please edit or re-tag and needed.

perfectblue 18:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Loin[edit]

Mr. Brand was Knighted, "Sir Loin" by the King; he was so pleased, "I (hereby?) Knight you Sir Loin." The King did not use a sword. 216.215.40.65 (talk) 02:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anchovies[edit]

I remember eating A1 sauce in the late 1980s, and I distinctly remember it not having anchovies. I was/am very picky, and I wouldn't have eaten it if it had anchovies in it. b\\ 05:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, as a kid in the late 80's i remember reading the label and being surprised it had raisins, but nothing about anchovies. were they listed under a different name in the contents list?--Moss Ryder (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I remember reading the ingredients and one of the last ones was anchovies or anchovy paste. I stopped eating it. It may have been in the 90's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.167.220 (talk) 00:43, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It has always had anchovies. It may not have been labeled that way at some point in the past, but they've always been in there. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 18:50, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A1 is not worcestershire sauce. It does not have anchovies. Its more similar to HP sauce than something like Lea and Perrins. Voss749 (talk) 02:38, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong. It's always had anchovies. I'm OCD and a long long time customer. It's always had anchovy paste. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 10:54, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As cited in the article, it contains neither anchovies nor anchovy paste and there is no indication it ever did. - SummerPhD^v2.0 13:57, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A1, back in the day - ALWAYS contained anchovies. I am an OCD label reader, and back in 1977 or so - it definitely contained anchovies. Without question. 76.143.148.157 (talk) 07:36, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Initials[edit]

after the A is a period, is it an initial for anything?

It was a matter of "reformulating" (it was a matter of legal problems, etc. . .) the TM/brand. "A1", "A.1" , "A.1." ,also sometimes including "sauce." This is similar in usage to USA, U.S.A., US, U.S., US of A, etc. . .. Gnostics (talk) 00:03, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why would there be a period after the "1"? It is not an abbreviation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris319 (talk • contribs) 11:24, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

neither is the "A".23:04, 18 October 2017 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.18.173.40 (talk)

High Fructose Corn Syrup[edit]

I have been trying to eliminate HFCS from our house. I notice the bottle of A1 we have contains corn syrup and not HIGH FRUCTOSE corn syrup. I believe HIGH FRUCTOSE corn syrup must be labeled as such and not "corn syrup". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.225.169.55 (talk) 15:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's the same thing. Nothing in the USA prevents them from labeling it as corn syrup. That's why we don't use it any more. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 10:52, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup are not the same and it is not legal to label one as the other. A1 contains corn syrup, not HFCS (not that HFCS is any worse for you than sugar).

Corn syrup is thicker and less sweet and contains mostly glucose. HFCS is corn syrup with enzymes added to convert some of the glucose to fructose, making it nutritionally equivalent to table sugar.[1] - SummerPhD^v2.0 14:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is the same thing. They changed the rules for labeling. HFCS is just re-labeled. Avoid it. 76.143.148.157 (talk) 07:39, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Taste?[edit]

Can someone add info on taste for those of us who haven't tried it? --SirJibby (talk) 15:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would describe it as being like Worcestershire sauce with a bit of ketchup added, making it both sweeter and a little thicker. -- Throbert McGee (talk) 09:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What's in it?[edit]

There's no mention of the ingredients, can anyone please add it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.159.213.90 (talk) 00:08, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bass-ackwards stupid trivia reference.[edit]

In the section "In popular culture" (which is arguably just another name for what used to be called trivia, which pretty much by definition is unencyclopedic; but that's a different discussion), it says that some people in a film "use the term A1 as a reference to the term steak sauce which has the same meaning as awesome". That's not only trivial and unencyclopedic, but also A) just flat-out nonsensical, and B) (f)actually wrong. Since when, how, and why would "steak sauce" have "the same meaning as awesome"?!? And on reading through the trite piece of movie dialog linked to, you find that it's actually the other way around: the characters are in reality using "the term" steak sauce as a reference to "the term" A1 -- which, yes, fricking obviously, "has the same meaning as awesome": Just compare at the top of the page, how the sauce is supposed to have got that name in the first place.

At the least, the stupid wording needs to be reversed (preferably, of course, the whole section could be removed). --CRConrad (talk) 13:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. Out it goes. Not only is it trivial and nonsensical, but it is sourced to Wikiquotes, which is not a reliable source. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 15:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal: move to A.1. Steak Sauce[edit]

Is there any reason why this page shouldn't be moved to include the initials as seen in the logo? Robert K S (talk) 13:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

they no longer officially call it that, taking Steak out of the name to sell it to people eating other meats than steak. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.23:08, 18 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.18.173.40 (talk)

Requested move 10 June 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 13:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A. 1. Steak Sauce → A.1. Steak Sauce – Kraft does not place a space between the initials. This was true in 1959 and 1907 (note this early version doesn't even use the periods in the running copy). Recommend retaining "Steak" in page title for time being, as that's still the dominant use and there's no telling whether the company won't change back to the old brand. Ibadibam (talk) 19:06, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and, why not, WP:CONCISE Red Slash 23:24, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support: per nom and second commenter. Best, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 02:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Indeed, there is no space in "A.1.". --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:00, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Why does the label read "Est. 1862"?[edit]

Why does the label read "Est. 1862"? This date is not given anywhere in the article.

Excellent question! I see nothing in the article that suggests any type of establishing near 1862. I wonder. Svyatoslav (talk) 02:04, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please add this information to the article, where the year 1862 is not currently mentioned. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 21:49, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We can't add information we don't have. If you find a reliable source discussing this, be sure to let us know. - SummerPhD^v2.0 01:37, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It says it right on the bottle. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 08:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does say that on the bottle, along with a lot of other things. Wikipedia is a not a random pile of things on product packages. Instead, we summarize what independent reliable sources say about a product.

Sources discussing the history of A1 sauce do not mention 1862. That's what the OP was asking about. We don't know why the sources give a history earlier than 1862 with nothing significant happening in that year. If you find something, let us know. - SummerPhD^v2.0 15:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you are gone. Forever. 76.143.148.157 (talk) 07:50, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

http://letslookagain.com/tag/history-of-a1-sauce/[edit]

I'm wondering if this information is accurate. 2602:306:CE4E:2DC0:6D01:92B:615E:BBB9 (talk) 18:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia really cannot decide if something is true. Instead, we look at whether or not the source is reliable, based on the criteria outlined at WP:IRS.

Nothing at that site gives any of the information we need. If we can't determine if the site has editorial oversight and has a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. As far as I can see, that's a self-published source and would not be usable as a source here. - SummerPhD^v2.0 18:39, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]