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July 29, 2006 Featured article candidate Promoted
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About the article's name again[edit]

AK-47 was never entered service because it was just a prototype for the competition. The final version entered service in 1949 and was called 7.62mm avtomat Kalashnikova or just AK, not AK-47. You can't find "AK-47" mentioned in the weapons manuals and it wasn't called so even unofficially in the Soviet/Russian military forces. In other words, it's just wrong and the fact that "well, people widely use it" doesn't make any difference, though we could, no, must mention it in the article instead of spreading another misconception. Insjke (talk) 16:05, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Words get their meaning from usage. If everyone calls it the AK-47 then it's called the AK-47, full stop. RoflCopter404 (talk) 04:25, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

So if everyone calls Lamiaceae mint, is it called mint? That's flawed logic. (talk) 09:57, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Calling AKM "another version of AK-47" is like calling "M16A3" "another version of M16A1". M4 is also based M16, but it's not M16. People say it, but does it make them right? Russian wikipedia article uses the right name - AK 7.62. Officially, there were about 2000 AK-47 produced for field tests in 1947, but mass production of AK (7.62) began in 1949, and by that time it was modified version of AK-47, and the official name didn't have any numbers in it (47 was like "test index" if you can call it that way). It was simply AK 7.62 (type 1949, and later types). Then there is AKM (1959), which isn't based on the failed field test AK-47, but on later versions of AK 7.62. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Since the "AK-47" doesn't exist, or has never existed, the use of the term is indeed confusing. Since it's a folklore term, it could be its own stand-alone article which redirects to an article using the correct names of all the variants. But trying to make sense of the article when it keeps referring to the non-existent "AK-47" is exhausting. Santamoly (talk) 02:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Such semantics are mere distraction. Words and names are created by people; the name in common use for this particular firearm is AK-47. It may not have been created with that name, but it has been referred to by that name for over 60 years. The horse has died ScrpIronIV 14:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Ok, from your position. Why this article: GM New Look bus - have name "GM New Look bus" but not "fishbowl" article M3 submachine gun - have name "M3 submachine gun" but not "Grease Gun" or "the Greaser",article Thompson submachine gun - have name "Thompson submachine gun" but not "Tommy-Gun" or "Tomphson", etc ? . "Words and names are created by people" isn't it? I think that technical articles shall bear the official name. After oficial name you can write "also commonly known by the nickname" ..... (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:23, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Correct name[edit]

As some of people already have mentioned above here many times, the correct naming of this weapon is just AK, not so called 'AK-47'. Firstly, the Soviets (Russians, in this case) had never given any numbers (year abbreviations) to markings of their infantry weapons in general, the sole exception of this being the AK-74, its variants (AKS-74, AKS-74U), light machine gun version (RPK-74) and successors (AK-74M, AKS-74M and commercial AK-100 series), but that all is only due to purely logical reason because there was simply no alternative for its naming, since the AK-74 was then already the third version (AK, AKM, AK-74) and even sixth variant (AK, AKS, AKM, AKMS, AKMSU, AK-74) of the series.

To simplify things, if the AK is really called 'AK-47', then the AKM would be logically called 'AK-59', and the AK-74M would be 'AK-91'. Moreover, then everything else of their infantry weaponry would have year abbreviation in its name, as an example, the PK general/multi purpose machine gun would actually be called 'PK-61', the semi automatic/self loading (sniper) rifle SVD would be the 'SVD-63', the RPK light machine gun would be 'RPK-61', semi automatic pistol PM would be 'PM-51' and so on. This fact also stands for older, former Red Army weapons, the PPŠ (PPSH) sub machine gun is not 'PPSH-41', the PPS is not 'PPS-43' the TT is just a TT, not 'TT-30/33'.

The best thing of all is that the sole Russian Wikipedia is a perfect example and proof of everything mentioned, right under everyone's noses - but obviously somebody who is here more interested in pure and dumb childish popularity instead of historical facts, prevents this and other such articles from correct naming.

As a conclude, that dull term 'AK-47' along with everything else like 'PPSH-41, PPS-43, TT-33' undoubtedly came from the West, more precisely from the Americans, because that is usually their practice for markings, which they also 'assigned' for the Soviet weapons. In this case, the term 'AK-47' probably came immediately during the Vietnam war, where the American army firstly met the AK. They, of course, did not know about weapons name until they captured first of those rifles along with their instruction manuals, on which the inscriptions was always 'Avtomat Kalašnjikova obrasca 1947 goda' (Automatic Kalashnikov of year 1947 pattern) what they, logically, shortened simply to 'AK-47' - with time, that incorrect term was spread literally far and wide.

So please, get over that dull, incorrect and ignorant term 'AK-47' at once and stick exclusively to the historical facts, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:46, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Per WP:COMMONNAME we use "the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)", i.e. AK-47, AKM, AK-74/M and so on. Each language version of Wikipedia also has its own rules and is independent of all others, so what people on the Russian WP do or don't is totally irrelevant. Thomas.W talk 11:59, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

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