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SAGE "abolished" in the 1960s statement is incorrect[edit]

The SAGE system, from what I recall, was removed in the early 1980s to be replaced by the AN/FYQ-93 Joint Surveillance System (which I worked on at the Northwest Air Defense Sector, currently called the Western Air Defense Sector). The removal of the statement would leave a hole I'm unsure of how to fill, however. Murasaki66 (talk) 22:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for catching this. You are correct. Please check what I've written for accuracy according to your recollection. I was on the USAF Q-32 team at SDC from early 60s to 69. The Q-32 was intended to replace the Q-7 in SAGE, but I don't recall why they changed that direction. Thanks. Afaprof01 (talk) 00:51, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Sounds right, though my own experience is simply from talking to other techs who worked on the SAGE before it was replaced. My only experience is with the Q-93, other than seeing a few pictures and bits of the old SAGE equipment sitting on some older technicians' desks. Murasaki66 (talk) 03:24, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I joined SDC in 1969. The prototype Q-7 was still in operation at SDC then, though I was told that it took 1/3 of the power of the City of Santa Monica to run it and that Edison had to be told in advance when it was turned on or off. I remember walking **through** it--carefully guided--once when it was running. Some years later--can't say exactly when--I saw stacks of vacuum-tube-based parts just sitting on our parking lot as scrap. It is my understanding that only one Q-32 was built. As it was said to be a transistorized Q-7, its design would have been obsolete when it arrived at SDC.LM6407 (talk) 09:20, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Timesharing used ASR-33s[edit]

I used this system at SDC in 1968, and I want to add that time sharing was by means of at least 30 ASR-33 teletypes scattered around the building and probably in remote locations. The primary programming language was TINT (Teletype INTerpreter), a BASIC-like interpreted language. It also had a small number of vector graphics displays with lightpens, and someone had written a tic tac toe game for them. I know all this to be factual but have not met the Wikipedia level of verification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Betamarx (talkcontribs) 00:42, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

I also used this system at SDC briefly several months after joining the R&D Division in 1969. I knew GE-235 BASIC and wanted to see if I could find something like that at SDC (hardly knowing the history of time-sharing at that moment in my career!) A colleague led me to the second floor of the Q-7A Building at SDC into a very cold room with an enormous amount of air conditioning, several large, round-screened graphics terminals, and a few teletype terminals. (I noticed the absence of paper tape, which had been on the GE-235 teletypes.) I used TINT via a teletype; TINT was somewhat like early GE-235 BASIC but even more limited. I did not use the graphics terminals and don't recall seeing them live. (The room was probably as cold as it was because the vacuum-tube-based graphics terminals were off; all that air conditioning had been for them.) That room remained as it was until 1974, when it was rebuilt to house a commercial sound-isolating booth and a PDP-11/40 minicomputer system for SDC's work on the ARPA Speech Understanding Research (SUR) project. (The booth, with the computer visible outside through windows, was used as a set for a science-fiction movie starring Peter Graves in 1974 or 1975.) In summary, then, Q-32 time-sharing went off the air after 1969 and before 1974 to my personal knowledge.LM6407 (talk) 09:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


Above talks about the displays used in SACCS but does not seem to mention this computer? So I am moving it here until we can link it to the topic. W Nowicki (talk) 22:07, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

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