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I wish there were a section talking about AOL's introduction of popup ads, the most infamous policy of its history next to refusing to cancel accounts.
Brief History and Praise
Background: modems connected two computers, not attatched to the internet, using telephone lines (now DSL). Bulletin Board Server BBS was a craze of home computers connecting to a bigger BBS sites having a large scsi disk drive, free software, user chat; often run by government or colleges.
AOL made a chain market of this: buying BBS stations (small buildings with modems connected to PCs) to serve AOL customers. AOL later upgrade to internet connection with Netscape web browser (before Microsoft IE Browser existed). There was some competition by telephone company run ISDN, but limited. (telephone companies have always used small buildings similarly)
But when Cable Internet came out: it was far faster and using government super-funded Cable Modem. All of those BBS stations filled Hayes modems and PCs? Technological paper weights (no easy upgrade path). Subscriptions fell.
But AOL saw this and invested in cable tv companies and had it's own cable access brand as well. The "diving chart" above is wrong: it does not show people subscribed to cable services that AOL owns large shares in.
AOL marketed (in wash dc area) by sending out free floppy disks that installed AOL software. People used these instead of buy floppies, and it was great advertisement. Thanks Steve!
AOL was a boon to PC sales it let many "PC dummies" and experts experience connection with modems, who otherwise would not have had time or not have figured out how. AOL always had nice shared content (software, media, chat, mail, news groups) and was pleasant to see and use.
The only AOL "criticism" was: during one period they limited where one could internet browse but only while connected to AOL. The policy was temporary.
Proposed merge with Criticism of AOL
Why was this separated in the first place? Most of the content will be removed for bad or no sources, and it seems strange that the criticism is on its own page... Air ♠ Combat What'sup, dog? 17:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
- I believe that criticism can be defined as an expression of disapproval of something based on perceived faults. I hope Wikipedia would be a source for information instead of an editorial platform for opinion and hyperbole. I would like to see factual information free of bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zyippee (talk • contribs) 02:33, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- I personally believe that the article "Criticism of AOL" should be merged with the article "AOL" Dinnypaul (talk) 15:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't read through all of the criticism, but note the "walled garden" part in the lead of that page. I was just looking at the lead (of an old version of this page): "AOL is best known for its online software suite, also called AOL". This used to be the case, I'm not sure the younger generation will remember this.. And since then, the company was bought and spun off, then bought again.. I haven't followed AOLs history, if it is "just" a "media" company now, then I think criticism belongs if it applies to the current business. comp.arch (talk) 14:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support. Cut out the unsourced or improperly sourced material (which sounds like bad personal griping), and there's just not enough for an actual article. oknazevad (talk) 16:00, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose, but not a definite oppose for the following reasons:
- "Removed for bad or no sources" Bad sources? Really? I looked through the citations and all of them look fine to me, most of them independent.
- Yes, it's true that this article has a fair amount of uncited information, but there is a fair amount of statements cited with reliable sources as well, and the unsourced sentences may actually have been discussed in reliable sources, and even if not, I would strongly decrease with Oknazeyad that the source information is "just not enough for an actual article". However, I only gonna give a weak oppose given that I'm not entirely sure if the unsourced info has actually been discussed in sources.
- Just because an article contains tons of bias is not a reason for merging or deletion.
- People here are complaining how there isn't enough content for a separate article, but then's there people who complained that an article with only nine short sentences is appearently too much for another article. This is not meant to be any sort of attack, but just thought I'd share that funny thought.
editorEهեইдအ😎 22:24, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support. Most other articles have criticism sections within the article rather than separate. Also sources are all right. I believe it fits well.
Merged: Proposal has been on for 9 months, long enough for a conclusion. 3 support (original proposer and me included) and 1 weak oppose - I think I can translate that into a yes for the merge. --G&CP (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Based in New Jersey?
The summary says AOL is based in NJ, but that's the only mention of that location, and the rest of the article either mentions Virginia or NYC. Is that an error?
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