Talk:A Clash of Kings

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Plot summary[edit]

This page needs a better plot summary. 24.187.68.25 suggested what I understand is the publisher's blurb, but from what I can see that contained even less information than the current summary, so I reverted it. (Also, I am not sure if that isn't a violation of copyright, though I guess it falls under "fair use.") What we need are a few paragraphs that actually summarize the book. Thore 09:42, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Per invitation, I condensed the summary considerably. If this is incorrect, please restore to previous versions. There is so darn much happening in these books! 173.51.18.204 (talk) 20:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Plot Change[edit]

Yes, I was the one who changed the plot. I understand your point, which is perfectly valid. Should there be a summary of the books entire plot? If so, I can attempt to write one up, if thats what you think would work well.

That would be wonderful! If you need inspiration, here are some pages for f&sf novels that I think are well done. They are different, but all good examples of how these things might look (probably after many editors have polished and changed them over time):

(By the way, you can sign your contributions on the talk page by typing four tildes in a row.) Thore 09:05, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Publishing Date[edit]

I'm not sure the book was published in 1999. That may be the paperback release, but the original hardcover edition came out in 1997 I believe. ISFDB says 1997, but I'll wait until another source is found to confirm this. MrLeo 20:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, after looking at Martin's official website, I guess it did come out in 1999. Just seemed odd that it and SOS would come out in back to back years. MrLeo 20:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the UK release of Clash may actually have been late 1998, but I was going by the author's website as well. Brendan Moody 21:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Yep, the UK edition came out in October 1998. Amusingly and ironically given the Feast for Crows situation, there was some grumbling from fans and magazines when it was published that it was several months behind schedule! I've done some minor alterations and added a list of award nominations. I still need to do some other things (mentioning the Meisha Merlin edition illustrated by John Howe would be a good idea) and I also note that the plot summary situation has not been addressed since the above. AGoT's is okay (a bit vague though, given it's spoiler-warned) but the three subsequent books have little more than a "THE STORY CONTINUES..." feel to them. I'm not advocating a blow-by-blow account of the plot, but a general overview. I will attempt this myself if no-one objects, but will leave it for now.--Werthead 20:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


Policy concerns[edit]

I'm concerned that article may be in violation of WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE section seven; if so, it would be quite borderline, but another section of non-summary material would go a long way in eliminating this concern. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what may be added?MPoint

The article does mention awards won and translations of the book. It would be nice to discuss critics' analysis of the book, but I don't know how much analysis has been done of it. It's not exactly The Brothers Karamazov. That said, I agree that the summary is quite long. A lot happens in the books, but we should still be able to summarize in less space. — Laura Scudder 23:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:AClashOfKings.jpg[edit]

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Image:AClashOfKings.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Fair use doesn't have to be rationalized--216.41.252.224 (talk) 01:00, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

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Spoilers for future books[edit]

Again, there are spoilers for future books used in the plot section. Stannis being alive is not mentioned in "A Clash of Kings". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.92.67 (talk) 21:34, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

its mentioned a few times by the guys given the choice to swear fealty. those that don't usually say something about how stannis will regroup and win out in the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.102.42 (talk) 23:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)