Talk:A Film Unfinished

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I recently finished reading Raul Hilberg's Destruction of the European Jews and viewing the film Shoah. Hilberg provides documentation on the monthly amount of food delivered to the Warsaw ghetto and its population, so daily caloric intake can be estimated: about 500 calories. In Shoah, Jan Karski, a Polish courier, describes his experience in a short escorted time within the ghetto: people dying on the street.

This film's material was staged and intended to be Nazi propaganda, but something of life and death in the ghetto in May 1942 can be appreciated. Watching it, somehow I felt I was myself for a time like Karski, on the streets like a ghost, able to move up with the camera to see people on a high ghetto footbridge spanning a walled street for Aryans. Seeing small children in rags with thin legs sitting on the street, one child lying not moving next to the gutter, corpses placed there to be removed, pedestrians walking by -- some well dressed, recent arrivals from the Reich? Those still with belongings to sell? Judenrat employees? Actors given costumes? Unnerving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Partridgefoot (talkcontribs) 19:49, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

official link to original film[edit]

http://www.archiv-akh.de/video_files_mp4/M1053_WEB.mp4

Caveat viditor. Zezen (talk) 04:35, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

  • I'm opposed to linking Nazi digitized footage from this article, because it is trivial and obscene. Advertising the Goebbels propaganda original reel in Wikipedia is similar to linking porn videos from articles about sex education. Here in Wikipedia we do not link porn nor the original Nazi stuff in encyclopaedic articles, and for a good reason. – Instead, what we can do is to link director's commentary with the same footage available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiWDo2qLvl0 where everything is explained sequentially including how maliciously that original footage was staged on site, and how fear was instilled in the people out on the street with pistol shots fired in order to make them perform. Poeticbent talk 07:08, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

As you know, this unedited film was discussed in Polish press (GW) this week and is hosted on official http://www.archiv-akh.de/ archive der Agentur Karl Höffkes. It is not porn, unless for disturbed morbid minds that take pleasure in human tragedy. It is youtubes that are banned here, and for good reason. Zezen (talk) 08:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)