Talk:Aberdeen City Council

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City of Aberdeen or Aberdeen City?[edit]

Is it City of Aberdeen? Or Aberdeen City, as in this council website? Aberdeen City is currently a redirect to Aberdeen. Laurel Bush 09:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC).

And it is Aberdeen City in the crest copied in the article. I believe City of Aberdeen was the official name of the Aberdeen district of the Grampian region (1975 to 1996) and of the smaller "county of city" which was merged into the district in 1975. Laurel Bush 09:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC).

Seems to me now it was City of Aberdeen in 1994 legislation, but the council itself has chosen, instead, Aberdeen City, which is used also in later Boundary Commission reports. Laurel Bush 14:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC).

And whoe EXACTLY is Laurel Bush, and what authority does she have??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

City of Aberdeen → Aberdeen City: The article is about a local government council area, and "Aberdeen City" seems to be the current official name. Laurel Bush 14:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Survey and discussion[edit]

Add * Support or * Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, or add * followed by a comment, then sign your opinion with "~~~~"

Page moved by Kjkolb, 08:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC). Laurel Bush 14:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC).

Strongly oppose because this is part of a series of articles. Please note that I am writing this after the change has already happened, and am rather disappointed to see it happened without "merge" tags being added, nor any other votes or comments being left here. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 19:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

  • What series? What sort of entity is the series intended to be about? Laurel Bush 09:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC).

Merge into Aberdeen?[edit]

Please discuss at: Talk:Aberdeen#Merge in content from Aberdeen City? (/wangi 20:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC))

Requested move II[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was previously moved. —Centrxtalk • 04:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

PageName → Aberdeen City Council : The article appears to be about, and intended to be about, the city council, not the city or the city area : Laurel Bush 13:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Survey and discussion[edit]

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Name change[edit]

I note the reference to a name change which seems to have occurred before council and council area were in official existence (but later than the date of the act under which they would be created). Was the name changed by the district council, prior to its own abolition? Laurel Bush 09:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC).

I think it was done by the "shadow" unitary council, elected in May 1995, who came into their powers in April 1996. Must have been one of the first things they did. Lozleader 16:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

If it was the 'shadow' council, then I guess the name change did not become effective until April 1996. Also, it would have been working under the 1994 act, not the 1973 act. Laurel Bush 09:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC).

You'd think so wouldn't you? But see note 2 here: [1] Owain (talk) 09:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
According to the Schedule of the 1994 Act dealing with repeals, [2], Section 23 of the 1973 Act was not repealed, so presumably it is still the mechanism for name changes. Lozleader 09:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Info box[edit]

I note the info box does not mention the Gordon Westminster constituency, which includes a northern portion of the city area, but also includes a large chunk of Aberdeenshire. And the list of MSPs looks problematic, in that there is no reference to additional (list) members who also represent the city area, as part of the North East Scotland electoral region. Laurel Bush 12:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC).

I note the recent change to the info box title. The box is about rather more than the council, however, including info about MPs and MSPs. Is it really the right box? Laurel Bush 13:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC).

Also, seems to me the 'one pattern fits all' (template dependent) info box just doesnt work, or tries to do too much, because (1) there is too much variabilty in the relationships between council area boundaries, constituency boundaries (Holyrood and Westminster) and electoral region boundaries (Holyrood), and (2) some council areas are also cities. Besides, the template is designed for articles about council areas, not councils. Seems to me the article needs a simpler info box, tailor made for the article. Laurel Bush 16:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC).

Sorry. Seems not to be the template dependent info box I was thinking of. Still tries to do too much, especially in references to MPs and MSPs, which are not council figures as such. Laurel Bush 17:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC).

Or was I right first time? It is template dependent? Laurel Bush 09:10, 28 August 2006 (UTC).

Aberdeen City Council
Council logo
The logo uses a "simplified" version
of the Coat of Arms
Aberdeen City
Shown as one of the council areas of Scotland
Council control
Liberal Democrats and Conservative coalition
Council website

I am thinking I should break the template link and prune seriously, to produce something as shown right.Laurel Bush 09:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC).

I am tweaking the suggested infobox (right) to make it more relevant to a council which represents a city. Laurel Bush 16:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC).