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A recent event organised by Angus Buchan had over a million South Africans physically attend a day of prayer in Bloemfontein. The Majority of the attendees were Afrikaners negating the statement that only 30% of Afrikaners are religious. If estimations around church attendance are made the NG Kerk needs to be quoted, or the national census. Anything else might not add to the readers understanding of the topic and dilutes this article with opinions rather than facts, it would be better to not speculate around Afrikaner church attendance at all, and if it must, then the sources need to be able to stand up for themselves Dean
If this is true you must supply a reliable source to alter what is currently there. What you say here does not qualify as a reliable source. Please do not remove cited material without discussing here first. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 11:24, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
I checked the reference noted in the section I removed. Firstly it lies behind a members only wall, secondly it has nothing to do with church attendance or religious convictions among Afrikaners, but is simply a statement around Belhar's popularity. I am reverting back to my section with its references Dean
Dean, how do you know what the article says (or doesn't say) if it's behind a paywall? The title of the article itself is not indicative of everything covered in said article's context. --Katangais(talk) 14:28, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
I had to take a trail membership, the reference was complete rubish and reflected an automated opinion poll on a popular newspaper sight :) I encourage you to check it out yourself, it had no business being used at all Dean
Actually I do not see why the two statements could not coexist. Belhar prayer attendance is not the same as church attendance, and being religious or not is a different thing again. I guess we don't know much about the sampling in that 38% (not 30%) opinion poll, but that might be a subsequent discussion. --Pgallert (talk) 18:48, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Agree with the sampling point, and it sounds like you are agreeing with my initial statement that if you are going to speak about church attendance the references need to be stellar, and probably only from the Three sister churches - on a different note, Belhar has to do with Protestant catechisms not prayer Dean
Neither the Netherlands nor Belgium offer working holiday opportunities to South Africans, and with the UK's immigration laws that also changed, none of the Commonwealth nations offer working holiday permits to South Africans any more. Maybe the section on Global presence be changed to reflect this?
United States, Canada and the United Kingdom?
The infobox on the current article is missing figures for the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom. Many South Africans emigrated to Australia and New Zealand, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest that they also emigrated to other countries in the Anglosphere. 2601:8C:4102:1210:651A:285A:DAB:5AD5 (talk) 10:07, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, but the overwhelming majority of the South African emigrants to these countries are English-speaking (incidentally, white English speakers are also very disproportionately represented among South African emigrants in general). Granted, a number are also Afrikaners, but it gets more confusing when you remember that many white Saffies speak both English and Afrikaans, and are likely to list the two languages as languages they speak on census documents. Unless the local census collects specific data on the number of those white Saffie immigrants to the US/Canada/UK that explicitly identify as "Afrikaners", or explicitly state their first language/mother tongue as Afrikaans, there is no way to determine how many Afrikaners are actually residing in these countries. --Katangais(talk) 20:31, 26 August 2017 (UTC)