Talk:Ahn Sahng-hong

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I have done massive research on this so called "messiah" during these few days! What I have found from reliable sources was that this WMSCOG church had all the rights for this messiah's books and info. Added some details about the doctrines and his claims, and made a table to compare how this messiah's doctrines differ from previous religious bodies, and some of his quotes that he claimed. I couldn't find valid sources to support about his family so I deleted for now.Wikipedia:Verifiability I am still digging in to find the right sources to support about that information. Wikipedia:No original research If you have found some reliable sources please let me know. I edited in a way that the article wouldn't sound negative nor sound like an advertisementWikipedia:Neutral point of view Wikipedia:POV and OR from editors, sources, and fields. Since I know that his church believes in something about God the mother or heavenly mother, still searching for his claims (reliable sources) about her. Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines I still haven't got his picture that doesn't violate the copyright.

There is a law suit in Korean Supreme Court between the NCPCOG and WMSCOG proving the copy rights belong to the NCPCOG and Ahn Sang Hong son Ahn Sang Hong Fong now runs the first church the NCPOG. that is why the WMS does not have ASH pictures and voice recording on the watv.org web site or anywhere else for that fact this matter was settled in court documents that also disproves the WMS history in there own words to the court by General pastor Kim and Zhang Gil Ja there spiritual mother.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.168.144.105 (talk) 17:57, 13 April 2016 (UTC) 

I have done background and family checks on Korean members and Daniel LEE NY WMS and John Lee LA WMS are direct family to Zhang Gil Ja there spiritual mother.In fact many Korean members coming from Korea are Physical family members and it runs all the was to there non prophets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.168.144.105 (talk) 18:08, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

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Reposted here because its relevant for the exact same reasons concerning 1988 and 2012 2600:1014:B002:1AB2:AC72:8CE1:24A4:6C73 (talk) 06:34, 20 November 2016 (UTC) I made a login here this ip is me — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyGospel (talk • contribs) 17:41, 25 April 2014 (UTC) 2012 reference deleted, it was not and is not held as a church-wide belief. 1. Small groups misinterpreted that prophecy, and cannot reflect the WMSCOG as a whole. Myself an example. 2. google "the truth of the world mission society church of god" for link to supreme court evidence that 2012 was not end of world prophecy and that people have lied about this before, I can't link it directly for some reason [on my smartphone]. Im recommending this to prove the fact empirically. For a number of reasons, the truth itself first and foremost; the 2012 "end of world" was not the "end of world". It was a prophecy of the completion of the temple, which, after being read, contained a couple more paragraphs of events which happen afterwards. This is the problem with taking such a snippet out of a single source, it neglects the benefit of the full prophecy. Not the end exactly, but an end sign. As in Ahnsahnghong's writings he also states we will not know the date, thus the end date prophecy is just a sign. This can be definitively proven with a simple date-checking of church opinions, before, during, and after, the issuing of the prophecy, and the fulfillment of the prophecy. The majority of the WMSCOG, and the head church itself, has remained consistent with 2012 not being the end but a sign. All sources to the contrary are not only dissident minorities, but have had their authenticity thrown into question, if not outright disproven. Since to explain this I rely on hundreds of thousands of first-hand witnesses or blogs, I can't include it in the WIKI, but I hope that the authenticity of these "facts" in the future are held to a higher standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.220.170.223 (talk) 06:37, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

The court case Church of God World Gospel Association v. Ji Won Tak (Northern Seoul Regional Court Civil Section Number 11 2005-07-08). Text stated that
"Also within the church, there is another claim being proposed that the world will end in 2012."
I'm not surprised if WMSCOG later, when the world did not end, changed their mind and said something to the effect that "the end of the world was not the "end of the world", it was a prophecy of the completion of the temple ..." - that or something similar has been SOP for failed apocalyptic events for centuries. But I do not know why this is mentioned, as this article does not touch upon it at all. In any event, we do not rely on "hundreds of thousands of first-hand witnesses or blogs" or related opinion for the WP:TRUTH, we go with secondary sources. I see this article have suffered some anon POV editing the last six months, and I'll revert to a previous revision. — Sam Sailor 17:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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