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Common Themes[edit]

I suggest someone add the quote listed in the NY Times that says "I suppose all of my films have a common theme, Mr. Kurosawa once told the film scholar Donald Richie. If I think about it, though, the only theme I can think of is really a question: Why can't people be happier together? "

I don't think that's the full truth of the matter, there are other reoccurring themes, but it's a good start. Personally, I find that Kurosawa has taken a pretty strong stance against fighting and war as a means to a good end. This might be what he is referring to in his above statement. This is evident in the Seven Samurai at the end when the samurai are disappointed that they fought a war for the peasants who were ungrateful. In Kagemusha the story also ends in a bloody battle that the protagonists tried to prevent from occurring. In Dreams, there are several stories where war has caused major problems, one in which the main character, a veteran has a dream of his dead war comrades as well as the story about the horned demons who exist because of radiation caused by a nuclear blast.

There might be a slight connection between the theme of "nothing is ever as it initially appears" or "Hidden Identity" as well. Rashomon is the biggest example, but in the Hidden fortress, the two peasants are unsuspecting of the princess and the general because of their false identity. Kagemusha also supports this theme with the "shadow warrior" of the late lord. Seven Samurai has Mifune's character, who is actually a farmer not a true blue samurai. (and don't quote me on this one, but I believe in Ikiru the main character starts out by telling those around him, the girl and the writer, that he is someone who he is not. I will have to rewatch that one to find out for certain).

RE: mistake[edit]

The Author of this article credits Stray Dog as Kurosawa's first collaboration with Toshiro Mifune, when it is in fact Kurosawa's breakthrough film, Drunken Angel which first starred the then unknown Mifune in a Kurosawa film. Drunken Angel was released in April of 1948 while Stray Dog was released in October of 1949. By this point Kurosawa had already collaborated with mifune a second time in The Quiet Duel. I believe it is important to recognize the significance of Drunken Angel, It is a spectacular film that is tremendously important to Japanese cinema and it is also responsible for launching Mifune's career as a actor and also introducing Kurosawa as a truly talented and skilled director. Donald Ritchie notes the importance of this film in his book, The Films of Akira Kurosawa. "Japanese critics have agreed that this picture is to Japanese cinema as Paisa or Bicycle Thieves is to Italian, that it perfectly epitomizes a period, its hopes, its fears: that it marks the major 'breakthrough' of a major directorial talent who has finally 'realized' himself."(Ritchie, 47) I will try to formalize this correction within the actual article, but am new to Wikipedia, so if anyone reads this and notices that the error was left uncorrected than please assume I was unable to do so and please correct it if you are able.

  • Any quoted material is taken from The Films of Akira Kurosawa by Donald Ritchie.

Trivia[edit]

On one occasion Kurosawa got to meet John Ford, a director commonly said to be the most influential to Kurosawa. And not knowing what to say Ford simply said, "You really like rain." Kurosawa responded "You've really been paying attention to my films"

Didn´t he answer?: "you´ve NOT really been paying attention to my films"

Rain stands for sadness and agony in his movies - Kurosawa does not like rain

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contribs) 14:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Will be doing this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


I have to admit that, at least on Wikipedia, my subject of expertise is more on anime and manga in general rather than live-action Japanese films, so doing this review was somewhat more challenging than the one I did for Hayao Miyazaki's article. I have to say that, so far, the article looks pretty good and is well-written; in fact, the level of detail is close to that of an FA instead of just a GA. Checking the external links, some of them are dead or have moved, but this is an easily resolvable issue. Earwigs detects some "issues", but these issues appear to be websites that copied from Wikipedia than the other way around. As the article is not a BLP, not every contentious statement needs sourcing; nevertheless, almost all paragraphs have at least one citation, and the phrases that don't are generally transitional phrases for the next paragraph.

Just a few minor issues though: the first is that the article's lede says "Akira Kurosawa (黒沢 明) (March 23, 1910 – September 6, 1998)" when this could instead be written as "Akira Kurosawa (黒沢 明, March 23, 1910 – September 6, 1998)". Related to this, the first paragraph of the "Childhood and youth" repeats his full name at the first sentence when perhaps simply "Kurosawa" is sufficient. In the "Director in training (1935–41)" section, the second time Kajirō Yamamoto is mentioned, his name lacks a macron (in addition, it's possible that his full name is unnecessary in this part as it's already clear which Yamamoto is being referred to). Finally, the "Documentaries" section is completely unsourced and the movie titles are not italicized. Otherwise, this should be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

That is pretty comprehensive on your part for the details given above. Your version of the lead sentence and dates is better than the one in the article, and yours is now placed there. For the "Childhood" section, his last name is sufficient as you state above, and I have left the footnote there for those interested in the details. For the "Director " section, your comment on Yamamoto is accurate and only the first instance of his name includes his first name with link to his article which gives the Nihongo straight away. For the "Documentaries" section, the titles are all now italic, with links to websites for readers and editors who need more details. It's really good of you to have taken on this semi-long article with such detailed remarks and comments. Let me know if more needs attention. JohnWickTwo (talk) 04:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
@JohnWickTwo: Almost all the issues I have raised above have been addressed. Once the problematic links have been resolved I will pass this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:58, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Earlier this morning I was able to format the rest of the references in the documentaries section. If I've missed anything in the cites then let me know. They should all be formatted and linked there now. 15:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)JohnWickTwo (talk)
I should have made this clearer: the problem is not the formatting, it's that two of the article's links are dead. If possible, please provide an archive link for each dead link. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:37, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
After some looking, I think I found those two old 2009 dead archive cites, which I have now reformatted to active urls with updated access dates for June 2017. Some of those very old archive urls from before my time with this article have long been dead links and I changed them to the new active links. They should have been removed earlier since there is no back-up now. The new urls link fine now to the updated links. Both of the ones you pointed out were in the legacy section which you helped me locate and correct. I think that may be the last of them. JohnWickTwo (talk) 03:29, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
There are no more problems with the article so I'm happy to say that I am now passing this GAN. With a little more work, this should easily go up to FA too. There's a dead link to the Kurosawa studio website and an issue with the Oscars page, but these are minor and resolvable issues that do not really detract from the article as a whole. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:55, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: My appreciation for your doing that. If there are any other refs to look at then just leave me with the ref # either here or on my talk page. Is there anything that can be done to get the announcement of your assessment on Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Assessment and to get the GA logo on the top of the article page at this time. JohnWickTwo (talk) 12:50, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
The dead links can be seen at [1]. Actually any user (including you) can add the icon to the article as long as the article passes its GAN. As for news, you can add it yourself. Finally, you may be interested in nominating the article for WP:DYK as it's a newly-promoted GA; more information can be read at that page. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:09, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

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