Talk:Al-Shafi‘i

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Thankfully, I doubt Iman Shafi is much of a controversial figure. Nevertheless, the tone of this article must be changed and apocryphal history must be indicated as such. Uly 17:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean by tone and apocryphal history? Could you be more specific? Yodakii 07:42, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

The Arabic version of the name is: امام شافعي (I just don't know how to insert it without messing up the surrounding text.)Yodakii

It doesnt look good to read an article about a great imam and then seeing "the neutrality of this article is disputed".

There doesn't seem to be a discussion about NPOV, just tone. Yodakii 11:14, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Move + Britannica[edit]

Shafi'i is what is used for the madhhab. Britannica has Abu 'Abd Allah ash-Shafi'i which would be a long , but I think quite acceptable move. For those with access to Britannica see this. gren グレン 08:14, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

I support renaming the article. "Imam" is not a part of his name, and "Shafi'i" is the correct transliteration according to the Wikipedia standard. Yodakii 10:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Dragons flight 05:25, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Drastic Action[edit]

I just trashed the whole mess and re-wrote it using the information in the Majid Khadduri's translation of al-Risala Kleinecke 20:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe the entry should be changed back to al-Shafi'i. But I didn't do that. And I unassimilated at the "al". Kleinecke 20:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Too drastic. I think there was some content in the old version that you deleted which might have been informative. Perhaps you should review your changes and do a merge? --Nkv 05:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

sayings section[edit]

The quote

 "He who seeks pearls immerses in the sea" 

is a vers from a poem that is attributed to Al-Mutanabbi in the book "Instruction of the Student" (Ta'lim al-Muta'alim) by al-Zarnuji. But in fact this poem is not found on www.almotanabbi.com which contains all the works of Al-Mutanabbi. Rather the poem can be found the diwan of ash-Shafi`i

Ash-Shafi`i lived much earlier than Al-Mutanabbi, and the qoute must thus be attributed to him. Therefor I have deleted this quote from the article about Al-Mutanabbi and mooved it here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.155.168.1 (talk) 20:34, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

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Governor[edit]

This would need citation to a WP:RS as the passage has multiple problems: 1) it's spelled Najran; 2) it's in Arabia, not Palestine; 3) none of the academic sources I'm aware of report his governorship as a fact; for example EI2 says: "It appears certain that it was shortly after having completed his education that al-Shafi'i was summoned to perform some official function at Nadjran (in the north of Yemen)", while Kecia Ali writes "It is probable that Shafi'i, now in his early thirties, served in Najran as deputy to the governor appointed by Harun al Rashid". 4) even if this has been proven in some newer sources, we would need evidence that those sources treat this appointment as notable enough to be mentioned in the opening sentence. Eperoton (talk) 02:52, 16 December 2017 (UTC)