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- 1 Untitled
- 2 Planetary Symbols?
- 3 Fourthgeek's changes
- 4 Sources
- 5 I Love This Science!
- 6 Carbon
- 7 The seven planetary metals
- 8 Missing a lot. Mostly have 'planet & zodiac signs' but alchemic symbols *extend* upon these types.
- 9 Unicode ?
- 10 Unicode does not render on my Firefox version 31
- 11 "Miscellaneous" Unicode symbols
- 12 Other meanings for the seven planetary metals?
I added some elements/compunds from Image:Alchemy-Digby-RareSecrets.png, though I'm not sure if I put them in the right lists, any alchemy experts care to look over these? Thanks Boffy b 10:27, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)
Should we add the symbols for the planets here? They're clearly related. —Ashley Y 01:56, 2005 Mar 28 (UTC)
I've added these for the "7 Planetary Metals." --Fourthgeek 04:59, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
all of the symbols are consistent with the symbols i've found in the tree of life. include some sort of connection somewhere with the ten sphered map of the tree of life, it would be helpful in any future researcht they have.
There already is a page on astronomical symbols, a link to that page would be preferable.
I've pretty much changed everything about this article from when I started. I'm still working to add more symbols. Comments welcome. --Fourthgeek 04:59, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Great job! It was very helpful for my research. I couldn't see the Magnesium symbol very well. There is a big list of alchemical symbols at the following GIF: http://www.tekedo.com/Company/scheele2d.gif -Roie
I was wondering what sources were used to categorize the symbols for the Alechmical processes/ Zodiac section, and if there were any alternate symbols for the processes out there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 19:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
I Love This Science!
I may be only 13 but I love alcheny. It is so cool and intertaining. Some people think it is either satanic or retarted. But it isn't. I love the element of it, and it just bets my adrenilin pumpin. It is a great science to study and get excited about! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 02:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC).
The only thing that I see to be wrong in your paragraph is the simple fact that this isn't cool. Alchemy was meant to be serious because of the fact that it could become extremely harmful if the process wasn't in the correct order. This isn't FMA where you can come back with metal limbs and have special powers of some sort. So, please, don't attempt to do any experiments without someone who is licensed in this kind of area.
Well, it's actually a pseudo-science, or proto-science if you prefer. Not Satanic (whatever that means) of course. Most alchemists where Christians, Jews and Muslims in Europe and the Middle East and Buddhists, Taoists etc. in Asia. It was pretty stupid though--based upon a false understanding of the nature of matter. All that messing about with chemicals did lead to the eventual creation of the science known as chemistry (and black powder and Greek fire centuries before that), so alchemy wasn't a total waste of time. --McFarty 04:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)McFarty
I'm curious was the use of symbols during their studies (such as in their notes on how to perform experiments) so that no one else could understand them outside of those who already would have understand them and they could claim credit for whatever it was they were attempting to do, or was it due to persecution, or something entirely different? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 00:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Um ... Actually, Alchemy wasn't really all that "stupid". The term "proto-science" is a good description (first time I've seen the term used; I like it). We all know you can't turn Lead into Gold without a nuclear reaction, but only because we've been told. Both are very similar: soft, metallic, exists in an unoxidized form. Even the other proto-science of Astrology (from wich came Astronomy) started with basic observations, such as the seasons getting colder when the big glowing thing in the sky didn't move as far across the sky (or various stars were in certain positions at certain times of day meant the monsoon season was coming). Those two proto-sciences only became psuedo-sciences when people continued at them despite the science being shown as flawed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 09:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Was there a symbol for carbon (or charcoal, etc)
The seven planetary metals
From the article: "Some modern alchemists consider the symbols for these planets to represent the radioactive metals Uranium, Neptunium and Plutonium, respectively"
- Not really, I mean, yes, but not in the same sense as there used to be back then. Since chemistry is so succesful there is no need for Alchemists. There is a market for the philosophy of Alchemists, though every single alchemical text is pretty unreliable. They all contradict each other, which makes (again) chemistry more apealing. The only "Alchemists" that exist today are the ones triying to sell their knoledge in 3 easy payments of 99.99, or the ones writting pretty inacurate esoterical texts.--126.96.36.199 (talk) 22:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Missing a lot. Mostly have 'planet & zodiac signs' but alchemic symbols *extend* upon these types.
Many alchemical substances are missing that were represented by symbols, and nearly all variations of alchemic "products" represented by symbols are missing as well. Not to mention types of processes that are modified zodiac symbols, not the simple zodiac glyphs themselves. here are some process symbols. here too, more process symbols basic metals, some alternate metals, substances, (e.g. glass, substrate of copper), bismuth, magnesium, antimony, even platinum and here.. basic symbols. and those continued. also see here, some random more complex ones, even more. list of highly specific aspect symbology to more general alchemical concepts, and similar, small, difficult to make out, small example of symbols for processes, symbols meaning "at that time" or process resulting in 'red fire' etc, thumbnail of such, microcosm / macrocosm alchemic symbol. set of symbols, another set
Certainly, a work producing an exhaustive list exists on this subject that is likely better than what I have above from an internet search can be sourced. A book on the topic. This article has so much potential because so much more history is actually there than here currently displayed.
The Character Map on Ubuntu says Unicode U+26A8 is ferrous iron sulfate (⚨), and unicode U+26A9 is Magnesium (⚩). This seems to differ slightly from what we've got up. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Unicode does not render on my Firefox version 31
The Unicode characters appear as rectangular boxes containing hexadecimal codes on my Firefox version 31 in Windows 8. On Opera they appear as blank boxes. The article page links to Help:Special characters but that does not help fix the problem, see Help talk:Special characters#Confusing and unhelpful. What is needed are clear working instructions that allow readers to display Unicode fonts on these pages. -84user (talk) 18:19, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
"Miscellaneous" Unicode symbols
What purpose does the table of miscellaneous symbols (underneath the table of Unicode alchemical symbols) serve? A few of them may be related to alchemy, but the majority of them aren't, so I don't understand why it's there. I just want to confirm if there's a reason before removing it. -- Joyful spherical creature (talk) 22:40, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Other meanings for the seven planetary metals?
I remember reading that the symbols for the seven planetary metals also had number and color meanings:
Saturn; Lead; Black; 1
Jupiter; Tin; Blue; 2
Moon; Silver; White; 3
Mercury; Mercury; Violet; 4
Mars; Iron; Red; 5
Venus; Copper; Green; 6
Sun; Gold; Golden; 7
Is there any reliable source backing these connections up? I remember a connection to John Dee's The Hieroglyphic Monad (1564)--2606:A000:7D44:100:4577:8946:6B83:6C28 (talk) 18:51, 13 December 2016 (UTC)