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"Use American English" template

Would you mind if I've changed 2 words (catalyse) from UK English to their US English version added the "Use American English" template, in this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alcohol_%28chemistry%29&diff=1193270702&oldid=1185209041

I'm not a fond of a particular English variant. If you would like to use British English, I'm OK with that, just change the template and change all the words which differ between the US and the UK English. However, I found out that the article uses mostly US words, so it was easier to change UK to US by replacing just two words.

Anyway, we should have a consistent English version usage, we should not intermix US and UK. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 23:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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saturated and diol

A recent edit mentions saturated carbons, and also more than one. I haven't thought about this for a while, but the usual alcohols are on saturated carbons. Reminds me that benyl alcohol, unlike the name sounds, has a carbon between the ring and the OH. There are also diols and triols, with two or three OH groups, ethylene glycol and glycerine (1,2,3-propane-triol) being two examples. Gah4 (talk) 01:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Alcohol (chemistry)

Here's my proposed template. Please read the "title link of the navbox is "Alcohol (drug)" (thanks), which directly matches my suggested template name, Template:Alcohol_(drug)..." text at for the rationale why this template should be named Template:Alcohol (chemistry) instead of Template:Alcohol

94.255.152.53 (talk) 22:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Water loving or water attracted

Recently, I changed the text inside the brackets after "Hydrophilic" in the first paragraph from "water loving" to "water attracted". The full sentence reads "The presence of an OH group strongly modifies the properties of hydrocarbons, conferring hydrophilic" (water-loving) properties. . When I made this change I thought that it would be completely uncontroversial; the phrasing is blatantly unscientific, and implies that chemicals can have feelings. While this may be a cute way for a biology teacher to teach their students who are averse to chemistry about the permeability of the plasma membrane whilst using the term "hydrophilic", it is imprecise, and thus should not be used to describe the properties of chemicals. Indeed, the article on hydrophiles never mentions any form of "loving", rather preferring my desired term of attracted. Yet, only a mere 5 minutes after I published my change, it was reverted, with the justification being that the term hydrophilic is derived "from [the] Greek hyd[ro] 'water' [and] philikos 'loving' ... literally mean[ing] 'water-loving', [and] not at all 'water-attracted'". Now, nowhere is it indicated that the bracket was meant to signify etymology, and thus if we were to keep the term "water loving", then it should be indicated that this is a literal translation. This is also a very ironic argument, as the two terms in the title, as the noun alcohol originally denoted a "fine powder produced by sublimation", according to OEtyD, and chemistry is derived from the noun alchemy. However, as is abundantly obvious throughout the text of the article, this is not a matter of the alchemy of sublimated powders. Hence, we should not be beheld by the etymology of the words we use. I therefore suggest that the current text, hydrophilic (water-loving) is not suitable, and that it be replaced by one of the substitutes outlined below:
hydrophilic (water-attracted)
hydrophilic, or water attracted,
water attracted, or hydrophilic,
(or just simply) hydrophilic Kcoriander Is A Nerd (talk) 07:24, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To my ancient-Greek-reading mind, the problem with (water-attracted) is that it looks like a literal translation of hydro-philikos while it is not (i.e., it looks like a mistranslation). Then again, if it were a literal gloss one would expect single quotation marks ('water-attracted'), so perhaps it should be clear enough to everyone that it's not meant literally. I self-reverted. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 16:10, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]