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Title of the article should be changed from Alcoholic drink to Alcoholic beverage
[edit]The title of the article needs to be changed from "Alcoholic drink" to "Alcoholic beverage". The word "drink" when used as a noun typically refers to a specific type of alcohol that is poured into a glass. "Beverage" is a more generic term that applies to bottled alcohol that is stored on shelves or tables.Anthony22 (talk) 18:42, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Fully concur. The discussion above reveals that the participants were clearly unaware of the contexts in which both terms are properly used. Also, because of that subtle difference in meaning, the two terms are deployed at different levels of formality (i.e., different registers). This is the English Wikipedia in which we use formal written English, not the Simple English Wikipedia. --Coolcaesar (talk) 18:20, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed. Does anyone disagree? ɱ (talk) 19:11, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- I do, absent additional information. See what Merriam-Webster [1] and the Cambridge Dictionary [2] list as the definitions of drink. Beverage is the term for generic consumable liquid while drink is generally associated with alcohol. -- Vaulter 20:17, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Vaulter: You're proving the point - we're calling it an 'alcoholic beverage"', meaning 'alcoholic' is right there in the term. We're not simply arguing between 'drink' and 'beverage'. By your standard, 'alcoholic drink' is a redundant, like 'ATM machine'. ɱ (talk) 20:31, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- 3-to-1 is consensus enough, and there's no argument for the current title. I am going to move the page. ɱ (talk) 14:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Vaulter: You're proving the point - we're calling it an 'alcoholic beverage"', meaning 'alcoholic' is right there in the term. We're not simply arguing between 'drink' and 'beverage'. By your standard, 'alcoholic drink' is a redundant, like 'ATM machine'. ɱ (talk) 20:31, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- I do, absent additional information. See what Merriam-Webster [1] and the Cambridge Dictionary [2] list as the definitions of drink. Beverage is the term for generic consumable liquid while drink is generally associated with alcohol. -- Vaulter 20:17, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. Does anyone disagree? ɱ (talk) 19:11, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- This conversation is so wrong and possibly a case of American-centrism. Drink and beverage are synonymous, and the above link to Cambirdge Dictionary supports that. Mclay1 (talk) 00:30, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Lancet articles
[edit]Should include direct link to Lancet article from WHO researchers rather than summary:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00317-6/fulltext
Follow up in Lancet discussing “the potential benefits of alcohol on cardiovascular disease and diabetes” should be included as well:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanrhe/article/PIIS2665-9913(23)00073-5/fulltext 2600:100C:B037:E65A:D07:3D09:CF56:D1D3 (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - SP24 - Sect 201 - Thu
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 4 March 2024 and 4 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kph7917 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Kph7917 (talk) 00:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
"Alcohol expectations" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Alcohol expectations has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 29 § Alcohol expectations until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 19:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Would 0.5% be too specific?
[edit]An alcoholic beverage is any drink that contains not less than 0.5% of alcohol.
@NullReason I'm thinking if defining the ABV too accurately can have [globalize] issues? e.g., Chinese (PRC) laws define it as > 1% instead.
I'm considering "...contains alcohol", and write later somewhere "[definitions/ABV requirements] differ by [countries/jurisdictions], see #Laws". 海盐沙冰 / irisChronomia / Talk 01:11, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- @IrisChronomia I fully support your idea. I'm thinking "...contains alcohol. The exact amount on which a beverage is considered alcoholic differ by..." NullReason (talk) 03:13, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Your one reads much better than my proposal, thanks.
- I merged the "exact amount on which..." part with "with some countries considering <0.5% to be..." and moved them to the end of lead paragraph, after the examples sentence. 海盐沙冰 / irisChronomia / Talk 04:45, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Looks great! Thank you for your support! NullReason (talk) 16:15, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
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