Talk:Alejandro González Iñárritu

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Look at IMDB bio re poss copyright issue Paul foord 14:48, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Article image[edit]

I've received notification that the main image on this article is likely to be removed under the {{Replaceable fair use}} rationale, which states that "it illustrates a subject for which a free image could reasonably be found or created".

If anyone has (or can source) a suitable free image of Alejandro González Iñárritu, that could replace the one currently used, please upload it and replace the existing image. Alternatively, if anyone wishes to contest the decision to remove this picture, please edit the image page, add the {{Replaceable fair use disputed}} template and provide justification on that page as to why it should be retained as a fair use image. Gram 11:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

What part of "Babel" takes place in Tunisia? Also, I only count three main stories followed in the movie, not four.

Academy Award?[edit]

"He has won many awards including: Academy Award,..."

Has he actually won an Academy Award, or merely been nominated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

Is there any need for Death Trilogy to have its own page? It doesn't do anything other than list the films, so not sure it's even notable as no discussion is made. Would have though this better served as a small section on the director's page. Rob Sinden (talk) 16:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've merged the information from Death Trilogy. Didn't really think that it warranted its own section based on the material from that page, so have just put it under filmography for now. Does anyone want to expand on this or incorporate it in the main article? Rob Sinden (talk) 15:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Name Pronunciation[edit]

His name, according to Mexican pronunciation, is said in seseo not ceceo. Ceceo is phenomenon found in a few dialects of southern Spain in which the historical phonemes /s/ and /θ/ are both realized as [θ]. Although a minority pronunciation in Spain, virtually all speakers in Hispanic America are seseantes, and seseo is considered standard in all varieties of Latin American Spanish. Seseo is the merger in the opposite direction: the original phonemes /s/ and /θ/ are both pronounced as [s]. There's always a lot of confusion over this, usually who have learned Spanish in Europe, where ceceo is often taught. This form of Spanish, or Castellano, is very limited to certain parts of Spain. No Spanish speaking person pronounces their name like that unless they were born and/or were raised/lived in those areas of Spain. Please do not simply change the pronunciation because you were taught that way and feel it is the more or only correct version of the language, if you do some simple research you will understand the difference. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:23, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Correct name usage?[edit]

The article continually refers to Mr. Inarritu as "Alejandro," which seems inappropriately informal. Is there a specific cultural reason it would be correct to refer to him in this way, or should the article change to his last name?Mr Subtlety (talk) 21:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Should the lead paragraph state the genres of Mr.Iñárritu's films, based on WP:RS?[edit]

The number of responses is low, but there is consensus in them to not state the genres of Mr.Iñárritu's films in the lede. AlbinoFerret 14:57, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Should the lead paragraph state the genres of Mr.Iñárritu's films, based on WP:RS? OnBeyondZebraxTALK 23:53, 31 January 2015 (UTC) The second paragraph of the lead is proposed as: González Iñárritu is the first Mexican director to be nominated for the Academy Award for Best Director and by the Directors Guild of America for Best Director. He is also the first Mexican director to have won the Prix de la mise en scene or best director award at Cannes (2006), the second one being Carlos Reygadas in 2012 and the third Amat Escalante in 2013. His five feature films, the drama-thriller[1] Amores perros (2000), the dramas [2]21 Grams (2003), Babel (2006), and Biutiful (2010), and the dark comedy film [3] Birdman (2014), have gained critical acclaim worldwide and have all been nominated at the Academy Awards. OnBeyondZebraxTALK 23:56, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ Add RS here
  2. ^ Add RS here
  3. ^ Add RS here
  • COMMENT - My advice would be to avoid mentioning genre unless there is very wide agreement among the sources as to which genres apply - My experience from other articles is that there is often disagreement among sources as to genre... and this often leads to POV edit wars, as editors cherry pick the sources that support their own views on which genre applies to the subject. Whether this is the case with Mr.Iñárritu's films or not I don't know. Blueboar (talk) 15:43, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Not needed. Certainly not needed to clutter the lead paragraph. If there is genuine need to mention the genre of an individual film in this of any director's article, it should be in the body text; it's too fine a detail for the lead. And even then it is probably not really needed, unless it's really relevant. Genres can be contentious, as Blueboar noted, but even more so, it's the sort of detail that belongs in the article on the film, not the director. oknazevad (talk) 05:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Not necessary per oknazevad's comment. The lead looks fine as it is now, with respect to this.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I really don't understand why editors want to prohibit making easy for readers to quickly learn about the genres of films a director produces. So in the George Romero lede, you wouldn't mention that he made his name making zombie films? I really don't understand this way of thinking.OnBeyondZebraxTALK 20:00, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Content removal[edit]

GiantSnowman removed a large portion of this article's content with the summary "remove unreferenced information - please add a reliable source". I reverted this edit with the summary "the article provides woefully incomplete coverage of the subject without this content. I added the Refimprove tag to address the concern." GiantSnowman reverted my edit, saying "'Woefully incomplete' though the article might now be, it is actually infinitely more appropriate. We cannot have masses of unreferenced content about living people per WP:BLP and WP:V."

I believe that the content should stay in the article. According to WP:BLP and WP:V, unsourced content that is "challenged," "likely to be challenged," or "contentious" must be removed. This material is none of those things. It is uncontroversial, verifiable coverage of the director's career. I believe a better course of action would be to restore the material with the Refimprove tag at the top to alert readers that some content is unreferenced and to give editors the opportunity to find citations. --Albany NY (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

But the information has been challenged, hasn't it? Also if it's so easily verifiable then do it, and then we have no problems. GiantSnowman 18:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
I don't think deleting the content is the same thing as challenging it. You removed the text because it lacks inline citations; you did not make an assertion that the facts are wrong. I quick glance at his IMDb page (which is already linked to in the external links) shows that some of the content (such as his short films) checks out. I wish I had time to find references for everything. Sadly I don't, but that doesn't mean the content shouldn't be in the article. I expect it was added by good faith editors in the days before inline citations were the norm. --Albany NY (talk) 17:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
The assumption should always be that when somebody removes content, they are challenging it - that is certainly what I was doing. I have no idea if the 'facts' asserted are correct or not, so we should always err on the side of caution. GiantSnowman 09:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Name redirect[edit]

Currently, the name "Alejandro G. Iñárritu" does not redirect to the article, but it probably should, considering that was his official credit on "Birdman", and also, as the Fox website appears to imply, for "The Revenant" as well: [1]. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Created the redirect. Lapadite (talk) 03:02, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Spanish naming custom[edit]

The article currently uses Spanish naming customs, however it's used inconsistently. Two edits have removed some usage of "González Iñárritu" and left "Iñárritu". Should the article refer to its subject as González Iñárritu or as Iñárritu? Lapadite (talk) 01:43, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps worth noting that the Spanish language version of the article does refer to him as "González Iñárritu". Though on the other hand, if he's now credited in English as "Alejandro G. Iñárritu", it's possible that "Iñárritu" is the right way to refer to him in English? Tahnan (talk) 18:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

For short he would customary be referred as "Alejandro González" in a spanish-speaking environment. I'm guessing (from experience) that he has chosen to showcase his second last name due to the fact that González is an extremely common last name, but Iñárritu isn't. But that doesn't change the fact that his first last name is González. I think it should be left there. Gdzlg (talk) 21:12, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

He has chosen to credit himself as Alejandro G. Iñárritu. Clearly the article should respect that. - Gothicfilm (talk) 21:10, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Even if he does sometimes credit himself with “G.”, it looks ignorant that the article starts with the transcluded explanation of Spanish naming customs and then ignores those customs. González Iñárritu throughout, please, as in the Spanish page. - Barbicels 01:42, 8 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

That's what this discussion is about; if the article should keep Spanish naming customs. If the subject is not using it, and reliable sources are not using it ([2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]), why should the article? Lapadite (talk) 19:02, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
A potential reason might be recentism. I'm currently on the fence as to whether the use of "G." over "González" is prominent enough to be used throughout the article and maybe have the page renamed. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:06, 8 March 2016 (UTC)