Talk:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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Former good article nominee Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was a Language and literature good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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January 24, 2008 Good article nominee Not listed
In the news A news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on August 4, 2008.
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on February 12, 2013, and February 12, 2014.


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Sentence in the lede...[edit]

"Solzhenitsyn was afraid to go to Stockholm to receive his award for fear that he wouldn't be allowed to reenter. " This sentence needs to stand on its own, and it does not. Even if you go on to read the following sentence, which fills out the thought, it doesn't do so very well. It would be more properly worded as "Solzhenitsyn was afraid to leave the Soviet Union and go to Stockholm to receive his award for fear that the Soviet Union would deny him re-entry.", or something along those lines. As it stands now, the sentence makes little sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.71.95.11 (talk) 03:34, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

You are right. Your version is clearer. Go ahead and edit. - üser:Altenmann >t 03:42, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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Disbalance[edit]

A lot of space is dedicated to personal political views by S. during last years of his life. Well, this is not something he is really notable for. I would suggest to significantly shorten this part and describe his views only briefly. My very best wishes (talk) 04:52, 15 May 2016 (UTC) At the very least, one should have a secondary RS (preferably a book) telling that such and such views by Solzhenitsyn were significant for such and such reason. What we have right now are his opinions about something picked by wikipedians for whatever reason of their POV. Given the large number of books about Solzhenitsyn, this is not an acceptable approach. My very best wishes (talk) 23:19, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

It is perhaps a laudable goal to keep to the main points written about in notable books/biographies, but not all of the remaining sections are sourced to books either. You removed some things but kept others based on your own "POV", so to speak, so I don't see this as being any better at all than those who added sections based on "their POV". Esn (talk) 14:01, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
What exactly my POV do you mean here? Please tell what other (sub)sections were poorly sourced and let's either improve the sourcing or remove/fix them too. My very best wishes (talk) 14:39, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
"POV" was your wording in your original post; I just mean that everyone has certain tastes which influences what they do. People added some of his statements that they thought were noteworthy/important enough to give weight to in the article, then you removed them because you thought they weren't. Some of his statements without current defenses of their importance in books & biographies are still kept in (not that I'm suggesting they should be removed, too, the article is short enough as it is). Even the things we choose to include or not include from any books would also be, though to a lesser degree, subject to the tastes of editors. I just doubt that we can entirely get away from variable human/community taste in editorial decisions. Esn (talk) 16:01, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Section: On Russia and Jews[edit]

It's evident that the On Russia and Jews section has been largely lifted from this piece from the Scott Nevins Memorial blog. As such, bearing in mind the "state where you got it" rule, it's probably worth checking that the cited sources do actually support the text. I'd say that its probably a good idea to give an explicit "see also" link to the article on Solzhenitsyn's book 200 Years Together for a more extensive treatment of the subject matter. The quotes of Richard Pipes and Elie Wiesel have been taken from the blog piece. In my opinion, to give a rather long quote from Richard Pipes is to give too much weight to one person's opinion and, as someone with a bit of a reputation for windbaggery and cant, quoting Wiesel's opinion of Solzhenitsyn is a waste of space. Note that Pipes gives a contradictory opinion ('In The New Republic, Pipes wrote that while Solzhenitsyn is too eager to exonerate czarist Russia of mistreating its Jewish subjects, and as a consequence is sometimes insensitive to the latter's predicament, "at least he absolves himself of the taint of anti-Semitism."') to the one quoted in the cited article from Reason.com.     ←   ZScarpia   17:27, 16 August 2016 (UTC)