Talk:Alexander I of Russia

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This Article Fails[edit]

This is not an encyclopedic entry, this is nationalistic propaganda. It needs to be edited by someone who takes history seriously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.119.79.224 (talk) 22:37, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Princess Maria Naryshkina[edit]

"Towards the close of his life their reconciliation was completed by the wise charity of the Empress in sympathizing deeply with him over the death of his beloved daughter by Princess Maria Naryshkina."

This statement may be inaccurate. Princess Maria Naryshkina was his mistress, not his daughter. I'd like to correct it, but not until I find out whose death brought he and his wife back together. If anyone knows please correct or advise. Alberia Torkenkluvin 19:18, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Metternich[edit]

This page says that Metternich first met Alexander in 1819, however, did they not meet at the Congress of Vienna in 1814-15, following the Napoleonic wars? I believe Metternich was one of the signatories for the Holy Alliance, which was crafted at the Congress.

Grand Duke of Finland[edit]

In intro sentence? Ksenon 20:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

(... the first Grand Duke of Finland.) King of Sweden, Johan III Gustafsson I Vasa (1568-1592) took title "Grand Duke of Finland" in his 3.8.1577 dated official letter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.246.80.119 (talk) 13:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

Opening of his grave[edit]

Whatever the truth, when the Soviet Government opened Alexander's grave many, many years later, it was empty. Exactly when was "many, many years later". I'd much rather see a precise date. How about a source that gives this information. JackofOz 07:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I rewrote some of the last chapter ("Death"), using more neutral language, since most of the rumours are not supported by the sources and there's no direct evidence that the elder Feodor Kozmich ever was (or claimed to be) the emperor Alexander I. [[ouital77 15:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)]]

Article is quite accurate[edit]

Contrary to the first opinion stated so vulgarly, this article is quite accurate historically, except for some minor errors or omissions (some of which are not errors but rather are still in dispute among historians). Anyone who is a fervent student of Russian history knows that much of it is actually much more dramatic than any novel and nothing needs to be made up or exagerated to add drama to the real Russian history. And this is the opinion of a non-Russian who has been a student of Russian history, art and culture for more than 30 years. wow is wound have never known.

Although I know Russian history is a giant, dramatic tapestry of events, this article really isn't worthy of an encyclopedia, which Wikipedia of course is. While the epic sweep of this Tsar's rule and the context in which he reigned (the Napoleonic Wars) needs to be maintained in the article, much of it just isn't objective. TG312274 21:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Article Criticism[edit]

This article is bullshit. I was reading it and just had to stop. This is like a fucking novel.

I agree. There is hardly any criticism. Napoleon was a visionary who wanted the Russian serfs to be freed (as much as he wanted to give rights to the people of Prussia and Austria), but Alexander refused to free the serfs.
Yeah this really does need to be clarified, particularly with the removal of all this dramatic trash. Skim to the facts, man, horrendous article to read. Kilter 04:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Okay, a lot of the article does seem to be a hagiography of the Tsar, without discussion of say his political philosophy or his autocratic opinions. Much of it doesn't fit in with the principle of NPOV. It's late now in England :) so I will try to work on editing this tomorrow. TG312274 21:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

be bold[edit]

i 've just been bold and deleted a lot of stuff that just does not belong into an encyclopedia. i could not think of any way to improve it. it just had to go. sorry. trueblood 18:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Clarification[edit]

What is meant by this line: "and he consoled himself in the traditional manner"? What is this manner? And more citations within the article itself would improve this article. SailorAlphaCentauri 16:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Dates, OS and New Style mixed[edit]

We currently have him reigning after he died, an obvious impossibility caused by mixing up old style and new style dates. Can anybody fix this? Smallbones (talk) 16:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Seriously?[edit]

"His view of any relation to the incipient "Americans," (who were almost universally considered unruly) in particular, should be subject to the conventions of his times, as such relations were characterized by heady new freedoms in the New World and the hardly unprecedented restrictions still necessarily in place in the Old World. Thomas Jefferson's opinions of his statecraft would have mattered to him, as to any European ruler of the time, as no more important than the flea that was tormenting his dog."

All I have to say with this paragraph is wow...really? Lame. Despite the fact there's no citations to back this up, I'm not even going to bother complaining about the POV much. 70.121.214.62 (talk) 02:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Since this sentence and the preceding one are unsourced and appear in the section about *others'* view of Alexander, I deleted them.207.81.14.33 (talk) 19:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Feodor Kuzmich[edit]

There must be some forensic state on this, either the royal burial or that of the starets. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 08:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

sickness[edit]

In the Mysterious Death section, we find "During his trip he himself caught a cold which developed into typhus". Typhus is not related to colds. It is spread by a vector: body lice. Alexander may have had one or both illnesses, but the cold couldn't develop into typhus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aimzzz (talkcontribs) 18:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Also there are few citations in the Death section... no citation for cause of death mentioned above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aimzzz (talkcontribs) 19:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Incomplete sentence in 'French Invasion'[edit]

The following first sentence under 'French Invasion' is incomplete:

"In the summer of 1812 with Napoleon's invasion of Russia." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.65.231 (talk) 15:07, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Death[edit]

I am no expert on Alexander I, or colds, or Typhus. Still, it seems completely impossible that a cold "develops into" typhus, as this section suggests in the case of Alexander I. No doubt, during the time of Alexander, people were confused about how the two might be related. According to Wikipedia, which is quite good on this kind of thing, typhus is caused by bacteria. The bacteria basically are carried by ticks. I doubt a cold had much to do with anything.Tombadog (talk) 19:26, 20 September 2013 (UTC)