Talk:All Star Wrestling
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I fail to see how All Star Wrestling are a "non-notable indy federation". All Star appeared on national TV for many years in the 1980s before the cancellation of wrestling on the channel, and have continued promoting to this day. They are far more notable than other UK promotions that haven't been recommended for deletion. Yes the article does need expanding, but it doesn't need deleting. See  and  for more information on All Star and Brian Dixon. All Star run more shows and draw more fans than most indy promotions, see their schedule for details . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs).
>Yes the article does need expanding
Have done so. Am often at work making improvements to it.
why I reverted your edit
I've reverted your modification to the layout of the list of champions as the old layout made more sense.
Two sections - one of current titles active in ASW, the other of titles that are defunct/dormant or moved to other promotions. The second category subdivided into Mountevans and non-Mountevans titles.
Three of the four titles currently active in All Star were called for under the 1947 Mountevans Rules (and the fourth has old school roots inasmuch as it traces back to the immediate aftermath of the ITV era), therefore the Mountevans section is not meant as a complete list of Mountevans titles or even Mountevans titles in All Star, but just of the defunct ones. the active Mountevans titles go in the Current secton
It is not inconcievable that All Star may add the odd non Mountevans title or two in the future (there have been a couple in recent years) and these will go into the current titles section alongside Mountevans and non-Mountevans titles (the Current Titles section does not differentiate due to insufficent number of active ASW-based titles.)
Grouped the way you propose, we could end up with people coming along and inputting duplicate entries for those active titles with Mountevans roots, which would result in confusion. And that would not do.
FAO Afkatk - Mountevans Committee
From the Professional Wrestling In The United Kingdom page
- After the war, attempts to relaunch the business in 1947 failed to catch on with journalists who condemned the gimmickry calling
- the show fake. The revelation of this, and the general chaos which had surrounded All In Wrestling prior to the War, prompted
- Admiral Lord Mountevans, a fan of the sport, to get together with Commander Campbell (a member of the popular "The Brains Trust" radio panel show),
- member of parliament Maurice Webb and Olympic wrestler Norman Morell to create a committee to produce official rules for wrestling.
- The most notable action of the committee was to create seven formal weight divisions, calling for champions to be crowned at
- each weight. These weight divisions included lightweight (154 pound limit), welterweight (165), middleweight (176), heavy
- middleweight (187), light heavyweight (198), mid-heavyweight (209), and heavyweight. Many of these rules diverged heavily from
- those in used in American Wrestling - five minute rounds (three minutes for title matches), two public warnings for rule
- breaking before a disqualification, "knockouts"(countouts) and disqualifications counting as automatic two falls in best of
- three falls matches (which were predominant), and no follow-up moves allowed on a grounded opponent.
- The existence of the committee was readily acknowledged by promoters who used its existence to counter any accusations of wrong
- doings within the business. It was the promoters themselves, however, who revolutionized the business during this time by using
- America's National Wrestling Alliance territory system under the guise of an alliance of promoters attempting to regulate
- the sport and uphold the committee's ideas to, in fact, create a promotional cartel designed to carve up control of the business
- between a handful of promoters—which it did in 1952 under the name of Joint Promotions.
Okay? It was not an organisation which governed professional wrestling. It was a committee of three celebrity marks and one promoter (who had wrestled in the Olympics in his youth) who met in 1947 (in a committee room in the House Of Commons) to draw up a rulebook.
Said rulebook set up 7 weight limits and called for World, Empire, European, British, English/Welsh/Scots/N.Irish and regional championships to be set up for each.
All Star recognised the Mountevans rules and championships and to a fair extent still does (when it suits the company). Joint Promotions recognised Mountevans as do current promotions Premier and LDN.
I hope (and pray) that this clears this up!