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- 1 The First Automated Heavy Metro in the World?
- 2 Urban Heavy Rail
- 3 Geographic Scope
- 4 metropolis in santiago, chile
- 5 Limited geographic scope - Not all Metropolis cars are automated
- 6 How about renaming this page as Alstom Metropolis Cars (Singapore).
- 7 New York?
- 8 Cost Of Trains
- 9 circle line trains
- 10 Requested move
- 11 Mess
The First Automated Heavy Metro in the World?
I have serious doubts about the rather ambitious statement that the MRT North East Line is the first fully automated heavy metro system in the world. The most obvious counterexample that comes to mind is the Lyon Metro Line D, which has been operating automatically since 1992; it seems to me that it would take a rather creative (and thus potentially biased) definition of "heavy" metro to disqualify the Lyon line from being, if not the first, at least an earlier fully automated metro line than the Singapore line. However, I would not necessarily remove the statement altogether if it can be rephrased in a meaningful way; perhaps as "the first fully automated heavy metro system in Asia"? However, I myself have only negative information (i.e., absence of evidence, not evidence of absence); hence this invitation for discussion to contributors who might have more positive information Vremya 08:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
- OK, the evidence is clear. I can do the change immediately. :) Its the first in Asia though. --Terence Ong 08:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Urban Heavy Rail
It's meant to be the first "Urban Heavy Rail", not Heavy Metro.
Even so it's the "Heavy" that makes the difference, the Alstom rolling stock are monstrous rolling stock... that make the station floor vibrate.
I was under the impression that Metropolis cars were not developed specifically for S'pore but rather can be implemented in other places. I added the tag because while this article deals with S'pore, it does not mention any other usages or proposed usages - in fact, it only represents S'pore's case. Someone who knows a bit more about it could maybe help? Bayberrylane 22:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- Check Alstom Transportation's website for other project, as a start? - Mailer Diablo 18:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
metropolis in santiago, chile
hi, i live in Chile and we also have the Metropolis train in the line 4 of the Santiago subway
can you add info of that situation in your article??
Limited geographic scope - Not all Metropolis cars are automated
The references given on the Alstom Metropolis webpage suggest that Metropolis cars are not necessarily automated.
Page 11 of Alstom's Urban transport solutions brochure states "Our Metropolis range is totally modular. Air-conditioned driver's cab or no driver at all, on-board computerized passenger information system or simple public address system, whatever the customer chooses, Alstom can provide." ZhongHan 06:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
How about renaming this page as Alstom Metropolis Cars (Singapore).
This should solve all the debate. After all, metropolis cars are indeed made for Shanghai, Santiago etc. So this new name will reflect this. The main Alstom Metropolis Cars site should be used to link to various Metropolis sites in various cities. Ignoramus 10:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- A better suggestion will be "Alstom Metropolis C751A Cars". This is to allow for differentiation of the 3-car Metropolis trains on the Circle MRT Line. --Russianroulette2004 03:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Are these cars really in use in New York? I'm reasonably sure that they aren't in use anywhere in the NY subway, but I can't imagine what else that referrent might be referring to. --Jfruh (talk) 02:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm removing New York from the lede, since there's no other info about this in the article or anywhere else that I can find. Please add details if you re-add. --Jfruh (talk) 20:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Cost Of Trains
circle line trains
i know the nel trains are the c751a (contract number). The circle line trains are surely not 751a - they are not from the same contract. i'm not too sure, but the circle line trains should be c830. - oahiyeel talk 17:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The NEL trains are contracted under C751A, but the CCL trains are under contract C830 . If there are no objections in the following weeks, I'll be moving the related section to Alstom Metropolis C751A and Alstom Metropolis C830 respectively, as per other singapore rolling stock e.g. Kawasaki C151, Siemens C651, Kawasaki/Nippon Sharyo C751B. - oahiyeel talk 06:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
No, a quick search on google reveals it being used on other places apart from singapore, including Santo Domingo, Shanghai etc. The problem with this article is that there is insufficient information about the this trainset. I would counter suggest the "Singapore" portion of the article be split into Alstom Metropolis C751A and Alstom Metropolis C830 as per other Singapore rolling stock articles or just simply Alstom Metropolis 800 (Model of train) - oahiyeel talk 03:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)