Talk:American Civil Liberties Union

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Non-partisan[edit]

ACLU is a Democrat and Liberal org. That's hardly "non-partisan". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.199.194 (talk) 10:36, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

That is your opinion. They have supported the rights of Rush Limbaugh, Col. Oliver North, and others far-right of liberal in the defense of the rights of all. --Javaweb (talk) 11:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)Javaweb

Since it seems to a matter of opinion, let's leave it out. Or if there is controversy about whether ACLU is more liberal than conservative, let's describe that controversy. Neither of you has offered any sources for your positions. --Uncle Ed (talk) 03:00, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
All my examples are in the article, with sources. The KKK and Nazis are also in the article, none of whom are Democratic or liberal darlings. --Javaweb (talk) 06:15, 6 March 2012 (UTC)Javaweb

There is already a section for Allegations of liberal bias and a section for Positions. If you have specific and documented examples those sections could be expanded. Tomsv 98 (talk) 23:47, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Ed Poor, non-partisan is definitely a matter opinion, esepcially considering the fact it was founded by 3 socialists. As a general rule on Wikipedia, if a small adjective or phrase is a subject of debate, it's best left out. Terrance the James (talk) 22:52, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

"Nonpartisan" means not affiliated with a party. The ACLU takes many positions that are conservative, e.g. on campaign funding & freedom of speech. If you want the article to contain more detail about whether ACLU is liberal or conservative, first get sources & beef up the "Position" or "Support & Opposition" sections; then go from there. --Noleander (talk) 23:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Agreed they are nonpartisan because they say they are, unless someone can document they give money or otherwise support one party over another or one party's candidates over another’s. Whether they have many conservative positions or a very few is by nature POV. You are spot on with documented positions. It is much better to say as the article states “The ACLU supports affirmative action.” or “The ACLU is opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances.” without commentary; than the ALCU is a liberal organization. Tomsv 98 (talk) 20:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

In the case of stated positions not being supported by their actions where in the article would that be included? Tomsv 98 (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Readability?[edit]

I find this article to be very well written and organized. A minor point - as of today, "ACLU" is used 540 times in this article. Would it improve readability to use synonyms in the majority of references? James Cage (talk) 22:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it will have any effect but have at it if you wish.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 22:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Hellen Keller was not a key founder[edit]

I've removed Keller & Kessler from the intro - for the second time. Helen Keller played a very, very minor role in a committee during the founding; but certainly doesnt warrant any mention in this article. Kessler had even less to do with founding the ACLU. Furthermore: Facts should not be in the lead if they are also not in the body. --Noleander (talk) 23:36, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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