Talk:American Law Institute

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Cleanup tags added[edit]

The cleanup tags at top (Multiple) and within sections (unreferenced) should be self-explanatory. I'm willing to work w/ others to improve article. --Michael Powerhouse (talk) 22:10, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template message: "too technical"[edit]

I tried to help readers understand what ALI is and does. Added simplified wording to the lead section: "Members of ALI include law professors, attorneys, judges and other professionals in the legal industry. ALI writes documents known as “treatises”, which are summaries of state common law (legal principles that come out of state court decisions.) Many courts and legislatures look to ALI’s treatises as authoritative reference material concerning many legal issues." (Forbes citation). --Michael Powerhouse (talk) 22:35, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good change, thanks! Anne9853 (talk) 21:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALI employees cleaning up this document[edit]

Hi. I am a fairly new employee at ALI and have noticed some glaring issues in the Wikipedia article. I raised this with my coworkers and we agreed to spend some time during our work hours editing this document. It already has so many issues and is written from such a biased point of view, with over-reliance on self-published sources, that I do not think we can damage it much further. Rather, we are working to fix the problems we created in this article. Fortunately I am a Wikipedia contributor, so hopefully my knowledge of Wikipedia's vision and guidelines will help us improve this document. We are still deciding how to proceed but may restructure the document, and potentially remove entire sections written by previous ALI employes that are unsupported by citations. Hopefully this will make it friendlier for others to improve in the future. Alexgleason (talk) 16:45, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexgleason: Thanks for this message (and sorry no one responded earlier). Thanks for your disclosure as well. The page definitely needs a lot of work, and I can see that COI edits were made in the past. If you have any suggestions on how to improve the page, please respond here and I'll take a look. I'll also do some research and try to improve the page if I can. Marquardtika (talk) 21:08, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I'm no longer working at ALI. I asked some coworkers to help me find third-party sources, but they seemed to only have knowledge of first-party sources. I imagine that third-party sources exist in very old books and newspapers. Alexgleason (talk) 21:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, thanks. I'll dig into this page when I can find the time. Marquardtika (talk) 21:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The American Law Institute[edit]

This entity represents itself as "The American Law Institute", as seen on their website as well as the logo displayed here on its page. Should the name not include The, per WP:NCCORP? Lindenfall (talk) 23:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would seem to make sense. I'd support the move. Marquardtika (talk) 18:09, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request[edit]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The request was not specific enough.

I am an employee of The American Law Institute and would like to request that this content replace the second paragraph under the "Other work" heading.

In response to reports of human rights atrocities during World War II, the Institute in 1942 appointed a committee of lawyers and political scientists, supposedly representing the principal cultures of the world, to compile a list of agreed-upon individual rights: an international bill of rights. The drafting committee for the Statement of Essential Human Rights included representatives from Britain, Canada, China, France, pre-Nazi Germany, India, Italy, Latin America, Poland, Soviet Russia, Spain, and Syria. The committee reported to the ALI Council in February 1944. Although the project was never presented for a vote by the ALI membership, the Statement of Essential Human Rights was published in 1945 by the Americans United for World Organizations, Inc., independently of the Institute.^[1] Along with other sources, the Statement was then used to prepare the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which the General Assembly adopted on December 10, 1948. In a 2003 speech, Mary Robinson, former President of Ireland and United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, thanked ALI for its “pioneering and prophetic work” on the Statement of Essential Human Rights.

^ "ALI and 'Humanity's Magna Carta', 1945". Retrieved April 23, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

MrsHuggins (talk) 01:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 02-MAY-2020[edit]

Clarification requested

Your request is missing two items of information:

Exact, verbatim descriptions of the text and/or references to be removed needs to be given.^[1]
Reasons should be provided for each change.^[2]

In the section of text below titled Sample edit request, I've illustrated how a request should be submitted with all the necessary elements:

Sample edit request

1. Please remove the third sentence from the second paragraph of the Sun section:

"The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 25 miles in length."

2. Please add the following claim as the third sentence of the second paragraph of the Sun section:

"The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 864,337 miles in length."

3. Using as the reference:

Prisha Harinath (2020). The Sun. Academic Press. p. 1.

4. Reason for change being made:

"The previously given diameter was incorrect."

Kindly open a new edit request at your earliest convenience when ready to proceed with all four items from your request. Thank you!

Regards, Spintendo 10:26, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Proposed changes to Other Work section[edit]

Please note that I am an ALI staff member.

Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. [see below]

1. Please add the following claim as the second sentence of the second paragraph of the Other work section:

The drafting committee for the Statement of Essential Human Rights included representatives from Britain, Canada, China, France, pre-Nazi Germany, India, Italy, Latin America, Poland, Soviet Russia, Spain, and Syria.

Using as the reference: ALI and 'Humanity's Magna Carta', 1945. www.ali.org. Retrieved 2020-06-2020. https://www.ali.org/about-ali/story-line/#1939

Reason: The current content does not include information about the participants of the drafting committee for the Statement of Essential Human Rights.

2. Please add the following claim as the last sentence of the second paragraph of the Other work section:

In a 2003 speech, Mary Robinson, former President of Ireland and United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, thanked ALI for its “pioneering and prophetic work” on the Statement of Essential Human Rights.

Using as the reference: ALI and 'Humanity's Magna Carta', 1945. www.ali.org. Retrieved 2020-06-03.

Physical link text https://www.ali.org/about-ali/story-line/#1939

Reason: The current content does not include information about Mary Robison’s speech to the American Law Institute about the Statement of Essential Human Rights.

MrsHuggins (talk) 18:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hello there! i will do the first edit that you requested but i will not not do the second edit because it seems promotional. many thanks Trains2050 (talk) 15:11, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think inclusion of the Robinson quote would be a valuable improvement of the article. The importance of the content also warrants its inclusion. I suggest changing the word "thanked" to "described" or "noted". It conveys the information without a sense of promotion. Thanks. Anne9853 (talk) 21:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "ALI and 'Humanity's Magna Carta', 1945". Retrieved April 23, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

[2] "Template:Request edit". Wikipedia. 30 December 2019. Instructions for Submitters: Describe the requested changes in detail. This includes the exact proposed wording of the new material, the exact proposed location for it, and an explicit description of any wording to be removed, including removal for any substitution.

[3] "Template:Request edit". Wikipedia. 30 December 2019. Instructions for Submitters: If the rationale for a change is not obvious (particularly for proposed deletions), explain.

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